Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Doesn't DC have the concept of Oblivion? If so, that would/should technically be the last entity in the universe.
I've already told you that DC has the concept of Oblivion. Actually 2 if you count the Void. Here is part of the list of cosmic abstracts. Notice it says, "oblivion".
) Universal abstract beings/fundamental forces who embody a universe (Beings that could affect a single universe) Kismet or Eternity (same being , but the name Pre-Crisis Superwoman called her universe in Superman Family Arc)/Death/Infinity (The Timestream)/Oblivion (Nothingness)/Angor/Entropy (End of Time after everything dies)/Maltusian Gods/The Moraiei/Three Witches/Other forms the Witching Hour manifest itself throughout the universe/Destiny/Dream I/Dream II/Darksome/Yk'Kphat/the Antechamber of Souls/The Great Tree/The Abyss (Pre-Boot Dial H For Hero Villain)/5th dimensional imp king or queen (Queen Gzntplzk or King Brpxz)/Omega Attractor/Epoch with Omega Attractor/The Oracle Entity/Maaldor/Ningal/The Aleph/Order/Chaos/Willow and her husband as one (one with the universe)/OA/Quantum Field/Speed Force/Parallax Entity/Azarath/Astro-Force/Omega Effect/Alpha Energy/Zero Hour Parallax (full power)/Ion/Sunbust energy/The Shadowlands/Joker with Maaldor Power/Mr. Mxyzptlk/Bat-Mite/Lkz/Ykz/The Mxy Twins (Mxyzptlk split into 2)/A typical 5th dimensional imp (Zrffians, Thunderbolts, and Mite-Imps) (average showing)/Emperor Joker/Cosmic Lotus/Nebula Man
Originally posted by Philosophía
And like I said, Lucifer wins. There is no logical or feat-based argument to say otherwise.
Pretty much.
The argument for Destiny so far has been 'he knows things.' Which is cool with me, if everyone can agree that Stephan Hawking beats, let's say, classic Drax in a brawl.
The point is, Destiny outlived his purpose at the end of the DC omniverse. He's incapable of living past the death of the DC creation. And so his sister Death killed him off. It wasn't his "destiny" to move on past the DC omniverse. Death and Lucifer were the only ones left. We all know how Lucifer's fate ended. He wandered into the void for all eternity never to return. He chose his own "destiny" *after* the embodiment of Destiny, the endless himself, was killed off.
So Lucifer won ultimately. He over-rided the destiny that was laid out for him by Yahweh which was written in Destiny's book and he outlasted Destiny of the endless himself.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well he escaped Yahweh's "plan" which is the same as escaping Destiny...
Yahweh was the one who gave him the letter allowing him to leave Creation in the first place. It was always a part of the plan. That he doesn't want to 'meld minds' with Yahweh after they are both in the void is irrelevant. At that point, both are outside of Destiny's control.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yahweh was the one who gave him the letter allowing him to leave Creation in the first place. It was always a part of the plan. That he doesn't want to 'meld minds' with Yahweh after they are both in the void is irrelevant. At that point, both are outside of Destiny's control.