Zoom vs. Superman

Umm, you can't reduce Zoom's personal kinetic energy.

Same reason Flash can't speed steal him.

Originally posted by Galan007

Again, this is a PIS-free setting. If an amped Wally was incapable of tracking Zoom, Superman certainly would not be able to.

And imo, HV doesn't move nearly fast enough to hit Zoom anyway.

I wanted to clear this up Supes has extra sensory powers that Wally doesn't have. In fact Zoom, Wally et al can be blind sided in ways Superman can't.

Superman can "hear" the inaudible. So it's quite possible for Wally to be stamped tying to track Zoom while Supes is not. Wally needs to rely on sight and his ability to track Zoom is dependent on whether he's "lucky" enough to spot Zoom in that scenario.

Supes can "hear" Zoom and know which direction he's coming from. That's why it's quite possible for Supes to tag Zoom with his freezebreath.

Zoom has to rely on sight, Supes can easily disguise his freezbreath and time Zoom at optimum range. Also remember Zoom doesn't have microscopic vision either, so if he doesn't see a trail of frozen moisture he's a goner.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Umm, you can't reduce Zoom's personal kinetic energy.

Same reason Flash can't speed steal him.

Inertia used Zoom's own powers against him to make him powerless and return him to his crippled original self. Inertia tried to blitz Captain Cold and got screwed when he was caught by Col's cold field.

It's a matter of heat energy not pure Kinetic energy like Flash's speed force tricks.

Heat energy is the key, this is how the k energy is manifested in living things this is how the energy is translated and Supes can manipulate that.

Also remember these speedster types don't have Kal El's extra sensory powers so they are susceptible to attacks that can be disguised or that don't leave an immediately obvious visible trail.

One point that I will grant Allankles is that, especially after "Up, Up, and Away," Supes' thought speed seems superior to Flash's.

Still, you can't track what isn't there.

I got a question. Cant Superman just destroy the continent or earth and Zoom would die

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I got a question. Cant Superman just destroy the continent or earth and Zoom would die

yes, but he's incredibly unlikely to do that...

OP specified that Supes can't do that here, anyway, so the point is moot.

Originally posted by Enyalus
One point that I will grant Allankles is that, especially after "Up, Up, and Away," Supes' thought speed seems superior to Flash's.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Still, you can't track what isn't there.

Originally posted by Galan007
if anyone honestly believes Superman can think/react faster than an amped Flash, then I feel sorry for them. Truly.

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There's nothing Zoom can do to hurt Superman.

Originally posted by complexbrother
There's nothing Zoom can do to hurt Superman.

When Superman is able to one-shot Diana into another country, you let me know.

Originally posted by complexbrother
There's nothing Zoom can do to hurt Superman.

Other than hit him with 300 light speed punches before he can even think?

Originally posted by Raoul
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Originally posted by complexbrother
There's nothing Zoom can do to hurt Superman.

Originally posted by complexbrother
There's nothing Zoom can do to hurt Superman.

Originally posted by complexbrother
There's nothing Zoom can do to hurt Superman.

We all Zoom hit WW harder then Superman has hit her, but that doesn't mean that Zoom is stronger!!

Zoom got one shotted by Earth 2 Superman in Infinite Crisis. Just so ya know

Hmm, I don't remember that right off hand - but even if it did happen, in the very same series Black Adam beat Amazo by simply pulling his head off. none

It's called PIS, dude.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hmm, I don't remember that right off hand - but even if it did happen, in the very same series Black Adam beat Amazo by simply pulling his head off. none

It's called PIS, dude.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Technically it still counts