Originally posted by RobtardSure, he may have been dying, I'll give you that, but Trinity was able to speak to Neo while he was unconcious, and Neo heard him and told him that she was told by the Oracle that she would fall in love with The One, giving him a 200 point increase to strength and speed, and a 50 point leadership bonus.
I'd have to watch The Matrix again, but what was that bit where Smith shot him, he fell back (looking dead) and Smith left him [gloating]thinking he had defeated Neo?
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchLuke is not fast enough even in the EU to dodge Routherman, and is not durable enough to take a punch from him.
If it is ROuths Superman,yeah. If given enough time to conjure the Force. The reason Jedis and Siths seem so slow on film is because film can't really show how fast a Force blitz is.
Comics Superman would solo the combined power of every Jedi and Sith Order.
"Kryptonite Lightsabers," lol wtf?
Luke took several lightwhip slashings from a lady Sith which are extreamly deadly, just as much as Rouths punch I bet, and recovered almost instantaneously. Also, there is a more powerful version of the mind trick that essentially means that a Force sensitive controls the course of events.Since Luke is the mac daddy of all Jedi ever, he could simply do battle meditation beforehand and make Supes screw up somehow in battle.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchAnd what do you base any of that on?
Luke took several lightwhip slashings from a lady Sith which are extreamly deadly, just as much as Rouths punch I bet, and recovered almost instantaneously. Also, there is a more powerful version of the mind trick that essentially means that a Force sensitive controls the course of events.Since Luke is the mac daddy of all Jedi ever, he could simply do battle meditation beforehand and make Supes screw up somehow in battle.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
"Kryptonite Lightsabers," lol wtf?
Yeah that was my first reaction.... But then I remember Superman 3 that computer using a similar angle with Kryptonite rays.
I like the idea and I dare say it might work as with other crystals in principle, but where would the Jedi find the Kryptonite crystals in the first place...?
And how many Jedi'd be quick enough to deal with Superman's speed..?
Imean he's so fast, that even if you had blasters, they work a bit slower than bullets, leaving a nice dodgeable tracer...against a man who can go faster than bullets... you could imagine Superman being able to evade them.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Luke took several lightwhip slashings from a lady Sith which are extreamly deadly, just as much as Rouths punch I bet, and recovered almost instantaneously. Also, there is a more powerful version of the mind trick that essentially means that a Force sensitive controls the course of events.Since Luke is the mac daddy of all Jedi ever, he could simply do battle meditation beforehand and make Supes screw up somehow in battle.
Luke was less the mack daddy and more the 'half-trained lucky bastard who got utterly owned by the Emporer til his Dad intervened when it came to it".
Yodas the guvnor. Or even Mace over Luke.
Originally posted by Bardock42A lot of the amazing things Luke can do are based on the NJO and Legacy of the Force books. The films also cannot really show how blazing fast a Force sensitive can be. In one of the NJO books, Luke killed dozens of Yuuzhan Vong warriors in a few seconds flat without even being seen. It is also my theory that Luke, Palps were so much better than any other Force sensitives in history that they single handedly impacted galactic events through sheer willpower. I agree that Superman may be a bit of a stretch, but I'm saying it's not out of the realm of possibility for Luke to beat him.
And what do you base any of that on?
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Sure, he may have been dying, I'll give you that, but Trinity was able to speak to Neo while he was unconcious, and Neo heard him and told him that she was told by the Oracle that she would fall in love with The One, giving him a 200 point increase to strength and speed, and a 50 point leadership bonus.
So Neo has a kick-ass healing factor?
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
A lot of the amazing things Luke can do are based on the NJO and Legacy of the Force books. The films also cannot really show how blazing fast a Force sensitive can be. In one of the NJO books, Luke killed dozens of Yuuzhan Vong warriors in a few seconds flat without even being seen. It is also my theory that Luke, Palps were so much better than any other Force sensitives in history that they single handedly impacted galactic events through sheer willpower. I agree that Superman may be a bit of a stretch, but I'm saying it's not out of the realm of possibility for Luke to beat him.
If you're bringing in the written literature of the characters, then Superman can solo the entire Star Wars universe.
Flying into the sun, shrugging off nukes, breaking his way into hell, oh, sneezing a galaxy away. Things the super cub-scout has done.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Luke took several lightwhip slashings from a lady Sith which are extreamly deadly, just as much as Rouths punch I bet, and recovered almost instantaneously. Also, there is a more powerful version of the mind trick that essentially means that a Force sensitive controls the course of events.Since Luke is the mac daddy of all Jedi ever, he could simply do battle meditation beforehand and make Supes screw up somehow in battle.
Aleema's light-whip is nowhere near as fast as Routh's Supeman, who can fly so fast that time turns back...
Originally posted by RobtardThe last two feats to not apply to current Superman, and it was a solar system not galaxy.
If you're bringing in the written literature of the characters, then Superman can solo the entire Star Wars universe.Flying into the sun, shrugging off nukes, breaking his way into hell, oh, sneezing a galaxy away. Things the super cub-scout has done.
Originally posted by Dr Will HatchNo, I mean what do you base it on that it would have any effect on Superman?
A lot of the amazing things Luke can do are based on the NJO and Legacy of the Force books. The films also cannot really show how blazing fast a Force sensitive can be. In one of the NJO books, Luke killed dozens of Yuuzhan Vong warriors in a few seconds flat without even being seen. It is also my theory that Luke, Palps were so much better than any other Force sensitives in history that they single handedly impacted galactic events through sheer willpower. I agree that Superman may be a bit of a stretch, but I'm saying it's not out of the realm of possibility for Luke to beat him.
Originally posted by Bardock42Because "The Force" is a construct with undefined limitations. The movies couldn't show everything it could do because the tech didn't exist. I don't think Luke could actually beat him, but I do think he could draw him to a stalemate.
No, I mean what do you base it on that it would have any effect on Superman?