New Punisher Dark Reign

Started by Phantom Zone17 pages

Furthermore if you want to be precise left to his own devices he probably wouldnt seek out hi-tech weapons when dealing with metas but not if somebody comes up to him and offers him an easier option.

Hell Frank just got the crap beaten out of him by Sentry and realised that Norman Osborn was hunting him. Whats hes supposed to do not pack hi-tech weapons all the time because its not his MO? I dont remember him saying that when he tried to invade Dooms Castle or fight The Reavers. He damn well took the equipment and this siutation is alot WORSE.

Its has nothing to do with the vs forum. I like the reviwer understand the concept of the situation.

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/123367009695871.htm

Remender is really on to something exciting and new in these first two issues. The Punisher is heavily reliant on alien technology, and it works extremely well in the context of the story.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
anyone see punisher apearances in newest DP, he took out the wrecking crew.

No,the only comic book store near me for 60 odd miles is so behind in its stock. 🙁

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
LOL I just saw a preview of Punisher in that issue.....I cracked up....

I think the thing is with SK is that its supposed to be funny as well, thats probably why Punisher looked like such a dork. 😂


so funny.

true, at first I was like who the **** is that, is that punisher. Though if you are sporting a bunch of other people tech and have not had the time to paint it or re design it, it would look kinda weird anyways all meshed together lol

Originally posted by Warrior18
No,the only comic book store near me for 60 odd miles is so behind in its stock. 🙁

that sucks

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Though if you are sporting a bunch of other people tech and have not had the time to paint it or re design it, it would look kinda weird anyways all meshed together lol

True but in the Punisher series at least they kinda re-designed some of his equipment.

😐 😆

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
True but in the Punisher series at least they kinda re-designed some of his equipment.

😐 😆


lol true.

In that DP issue he just spray painted a skull on it lol

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Furthermore if you want to be precise left to his own devices he probably wouldnt seek out hi-tech weapons when dealing with metas but not if somebody comes up to him and offers him an easier option.

Hell Frank just got the crap beaten out of him by Sentry and realised that Norman Osborn was hunting him. Whats hes supposed to do not pack hi-tech weapons all the time because its not his MO? I dont remember him saying that when he tried to invade Dooms Castle or fight The Reavers. He damn well took the equipment and this siutation is alot WORSE.

Its has nothing to do with the vs forum. I like the reviwer understand the concept of the situation.

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/123367009695871.htm

Remender is really on to something exciting and new in these first two issues. The Punisher is heavily reliant on alien technology, and it works extremely well in the context of the story.

AGAIN, Zone: That is situational. He took what he could grab at the moment, but did not make it part of his everyday arsenal.

What I don't want is for this to become his STANDARD weaponry. It's not as if all the metas he's up against are insanely durable anyhow. On the contrary, many are quite squishy, and a bullet between the eyes would do just fine. I really like how the story arc is playing out so far, but the tech is not something I'd like to see in every Punisher issue afterward.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
AGAIN, Zone: That is situational. He took what he could grab at the moment, but did not make it part of his everyday arsenal.

Are you refering to Dr Doom and Reavers? As I already explained he didnt make it part of his everyday arsenal because he didnt fight metas all the time.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

What I don't want is for this to become his STANDARD weaponry. It's not as if all the metas he's up against are insanely durable anyhow. On the contrary, many are quite squishy, and a bullet between the eyes would do just fine. I really like how the story arc is playing out so far, but the tech is not something I'd like to see in every Punisher issue afterward.

You can be dangerous in other ways apart from being bulletproof. Hes also being hunted so it packs stuff just in case he might need it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Are you refering to Dr Doom and Reavers? As I already explained he didnt make it part of his everyday arsenal because he didnt fight metas all the time.

While he's fought metas from time to time and done rather well against them, Castle's biggest impact has been focused on the lower end of the criminal spectrum. He feels that while the superhero community focuses more on the big picture (preventing wars, thwarting coups, saving the world from a megalomaniac despot), they ignore the groups and individuals who've been afflicted by everyday crime. He goes on to state this in his WWH arc:

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You can be dangerous in other ways apart from being bulletproof. Hes also being hunted so it packs stuff just in case he might need it.

He's being cornered by the Hood's army of metas. He has these weapons, he's going to use them as his last resort, and that's fine. I have no problem with that. My only real concern is that making this the norm for Castle will distance him from the character we already enjoy reading about. It would be like taking a soldier like John Rambo and gradually turning him into something more reminiscent of Boba Fett.

It's a good move on Marvel's part to involve him more in the superhero community. I said myself not too long ago that I'd like to see him try his luck against the metas more often, maybe even with a few additions to his arsenal to even out the odds. Still, while what's been happening lately in the Punisher's book has been great so far, it's best kept in small doses.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
While he's fought metas from time to time and done rather well against them, Castle's biggest impact has been focused on the lower end of the criminal spectrum. He feels that while the superhero community focuses more on the big picture (preventing wars, thwarting coups, saving the world from a megalomaniac despot), they ignore the groups and individuals who've been afflicted by everyday crime. He goes on to state this in his WWH arc:


and in that story he ended up using a venom suit, again because he needed to use it and now hes fighting much more powerful guys and in bigger numbers.

I think we also see him using a gun that shots swords after he got his hand on better weapons.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

He's being cornered by the Hood's army of metas. He has these weapons, he's going to use them as his last resort, and that's fine. I have no problem with that. My only real concern is that making this the norm for Castle will distance him from the character we already enjoy reading about. It would be like taking a soldier like John Rambo and gradually turning him into something more reminiscent of Boba Fett.

Yeah but hes used hi-tech weapons in almost every issue so far so that is the norm.

You're entitled to your opinion doesnt change the fact its logcal for him to use them in the context of the situation and its not distnacing him away from the character, one of the main reasons again being thats hes doing what he would naturally do.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

It's a good move on Marvel's part to involve him more in the superhero community. I said myself not too long ago that I'd like to see him try his luck against the metas more often, maybe even with a few additions to his arsenal to even out the odds. Still, while what's been happening lately in the Punisher's book has been great so far, it's best kept in small doses.

Thing is im confusesd about what you mean. You stated that you dont want him to use hi-tech weapons all the time, but thats practically what hes doing. ...but you seem to like the stories. So maybe you are refering to him using just hi-tech weapons and no conventional weapons?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and in that story he ended up using a venom suit, again because he needed to use it and now hes fighting much more powerful guys and in bigger numbers.

I think we also see him using a gun that shots swords after he got his hand on better weapons.

Situational. They didn't become mainstays, and were limited to that one appearance to my knowledge. He used them because that's all that what was available and the situation called for them. We more than likely won't see them again, even though they would be beneficial to the Punisher's crusade.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah but hes used hi-tech weapons in almost every issue so far so that is the norm.

You're entitled to your opinion doesnt change the fact its logcal for him to use them in the context of the situation and its not distnacing him away from the character, one of the main reasons again being thats hes doing what he would naturally do.


I'm not arguing that it's not logical for him to use them, because it is logical for anyone to seek out an advantage in a fight. Military does it all the time. Still, governments have the infrastructure to develop and maintain those weapons, and don't use most of them because they haven't been absolutely necessary. For this particular arc, the hi-tech weapons definitely help even the odds against the Hood's meta army (situational).

However, Castle doesn't have the money or facilities needed for their upkeep to make them part of his daily arsenal, which would be impractical and overkill in most cases anyhow. Keeping conventional weapons as standard arsenal highlights his background as a soldier anyhow. This is why a permanent upgrade to Castle's arsenal isn't the best idea.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thing is im confusesd about what you mean. You stated that you dont want him to use hi-tech weapons all the time, but thats practically what hes doing. ...but you seem to like the stories. So maybe you are refering to him using just hi-tech weapons and no conventional weapons?
Yeah, that last bit is my real stance. He's had some good writers on his title since his return to the mainstream. He's been using hi-tech weapons a lot more frequently in the past year or two's worth of monthly issues. It's been plausible for the time being, but continuing to have the Punisher adopt weapons, vehicles, and at times even costumes/armor of different existing characters distorts his own established identity. For me, it's like reading about an entirely different character. I don't think it can be further justified unless he actually took out someone major with it all.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9318.FrankenCastle~colon~_Build-A-Frank

so he's a cyborg zombie vigilante with super alien tech..what a transformation haha

omg.

Lame.

First look Punisher annual 1

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9212.FIRST_LOOK~colon~_Punisher_Annual_%231

Looks like a good artist for it should get Jason Pearson for the main series.

i htink he looks kinda sick haha and with his tech/connections maybe he'll get a cleaner job done later, marvel has the tech look at nuke.

Check this shit out. Now we know why Henry's with Punisher.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3377&disp=table

Its like I can't ****ing wait till next months issue.

The looks good in both the annual and the main series. Both look like good reads.

What are Microchip's reasons for helping the Hood kill the Punisher?

I got a preview of Punisher the List. Frank has got mad amounts of beef.

http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/102/1023777p1.html