Originally posted by Raoul
being stronger doesn't automatically allow the ability to one shot someone. diana can knock kal around easily enough, but he's generally considered to be stronger.i'm talking about the one that erases from existence/brings back the dead, and so on...
Originally posted by Raoul
i didn't say she did.
knocking someone back is not at all the same as a pimp smack.
Pimp smack implies a sizeable advantage strength wise.
Originally posted by Raoul
i disagree.
DS has more often than not seemed superior to Superman physically.
Superman was going for blood against DS in the Supergirl arc of Superman batman. DS took Superman's any best and simply swatted Superman away.
DS IS Superior to Superman physically. Superman has NEVER swatted DS away.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Superman didn't reflect anything back. Your pathetic crap argument there for fails. Thor and Wondy used their own powers/.weapons to return fire. Superman did no such thing. And In countdown it stated that doomsday repeatedly died and came back to life. And it of course, showed us the times DD had been killed. You fail at life.
You truly are horrible at composing an argument, and at reading comprehension. So, answer me this question little girl... What power of WW and Thor allow them to reflect energy back at there foe? It's no power of theirs that does this it's their weapons powerset to do so. Furthermore, your arguments fails because your claim was that Superman wouldn't have won if DS wasn't hurt by his own OB. So, answer me this then.. so, why WW reflects back stuff at her foe what ends up hurting her foe is their own energy much the same as DS correct? So, therefore your double standard has to work both ways.. If that doesn't count as a win then anytime WW has done this that also doesn't count as a win because she may have never won if her opponent was hurt by their own blast. It's fun owning you Fangirl, please come again.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Well. DS has beaten Orion physically. And Orion stalemates Superman.DS has more often than not seemed superior to Superman physically.
Superman was going for blood against DS in the Supergirl arc of Superman batman. DS took Superman's any best and simply swatted Superman away.
DS IS Superior to Superman physically. Superman has NEVER swatted DS away.
i'm not going to argue. you raise a fair point, as did enyalus. for me, the swatting doesn't hold the same value it seems to do for you.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You truly are horrible at composing an argument, and at reading comprehension. So, answer me this question little girl... What power of WW and Thor allow them to reflect energy back at there foe? It's no power of theirs that does this it's their weapons powerset to do so. Furthermore, your arguments fails because your claim was that Superman wouldn't have won if DS wasn't hurt by his own OB. So, answer me this then.. so, why WW reflects back stuff at her foe what ends up hurting her foe is their own energy much the same as DS correct? So, therefore your double standard has to work both ways.. If that doesn't count as a win then anytime WW has done this that also doesn't count as a win because she may have never won if her opponent was hurt by their own blast. It's fun owning you Fangirl, please come again.
As I said, Superman used DS Omega attack to get the victory. Something that any REAL DC fan knows is classic plot device win over DS. People who dont' know DC and don't know DS would just give Superman a win when he can't beat DS without some sort of plot.
If DS getting his by his own Omega's counts as someone being able to actually beat someone or is considered as his equal, then Reed Richards is Galactus's equal since he can use the UN against Galactus.
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not going to argue. you raise a fair point, as did enyalus. for me, the swatting doesn't hold the same value it seems to do for you.
Orion hasn't grown in strength and yet some how he and Superman were still shown as equals.
Which means DS is still >Orion=Superman in strength. There's no other way to look at it.
Originally posted by fangirl101
DS has pwned Orion. Orion=Superman.Orion hasn't grown in strength and yet some how he and Superman were still shown as equals.
Which means DS is still >Orion=Superman in strength. There's no other way to look at it.
and yet, i do.
the swatting is combat foreplay, imo. once they actually get down to it, superman has shown himself a match for darkseid more than once, imo.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
just like WW using somebody own energy against them can never count as a win correct by your theory?
Originally posted by Raoul
and yet, i do.the swatting is combat foreplay, imo. once they actually get down to it, superman has shown himself a match for darkseid more than once, imo.
In Superman Batman, Superman gave his all and it didn't even phase DS. He got swatted away. how do you explain that? You can't.
DS>>>Superman in every way but combat speed.
Originally posted by fangirl101
No. He hasn't. IN the crappy apok now, Superman had to use The Omegas.In Superman Batman, Superman gave his all and it didn't even phase DS. He got swatted away. how do you explain that? You can't.
DS>>>Superman in every way but combat speed.
i wasn't talking about apok now.
they've fought several times, and PHYSICALLY, which is what i am talking about, superman has matched him from what i could gather.
Originally posted by Raoul
i wasn't talking about apok now.they've fought several times, and PHYSICALLY, which is what i am talking about, superman has matched him from what i could gather.
are there some times I'm missing?