Darkseid, thor vs Thanos, superman

This "True Form" has never been shown before until now. Thus a lot of things could be the reason for it now that could be explained at any point in time. I say again.. where was this true form when Doomsday laid waste to him and Apok? Where was this true form with the other examples I used. Or let me guess he just choose not to show it then? Fact is TP i do read DC and enjoy DC. I also know that Morrison as you say likes people to connect the dots but often times that connection is left up to the reader with many possible avenues. So, while you think you may have connected the dots correct doesn't make it so. Again tell me where this true form was when he's lost to Heralds in his home world?

Originally posted by lawest9
SUPERMAN is the one who is known for holding back, and he has always been historically portrayed as being more powerful than thor and most. I have no problem with the t-God winning a few from supes but there was nothing PIS about that fight. Now if you want to complain about PIS writing.........look at the black panther vs silver surfer fight in a issue of FF over a year back.

Thor has stated he holds back twice once when he fought a low level street villian forgot the issues and then in the new series when he smack down ironman issue 2 or 3 he said he no longer is holding back they are both now for holding back both you can argue back and fourth about who is strouger but they are close in strength noway should supes be able to catch mjolnir.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor has stated he holds back twice once when he fought a low level street villian forgot the issues and then in the new series when he smack down ironman issue 2 or 3 he said he no longer is holding back they are both now for holding back both you can argue back and fourth about who is strouger but they are close in strength noway should supes be able to catch mjolnir.

Originally posted by lawest9
Why not? didn't count nefaria accomplished the same act.

I never seen that one i didn't say no one can stop the hammer but Supes and Thor are to close in strength for that to happen.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This "True Form" has never been shown before until now. Thus a lot of things could be the reason for it now that could be explained at any point in time. I say again.. where was this true form when Doomsday laid waste to him and Apok? Where was this true form with the other examples I used. Or let me guess he just choose not to show it then? Fact is TP i do read DC and enjoy DC. I also know that Morrison as you say likes people to connect the dots but often times that connection is left up to the reader with many possible avenues. So, while you think you may have connected the dots correct doesn't make it so. Again tell me where this true form was when he's lost to Heralds in his home world?

Originally posted by DarkOdin
I never seen that one i didn't say no one can stop the hammer but Supes and Thor are to close in strength for that to happen.

Count Nefaria and Thor are peers in strength as well. He caught Mjolnir in the very same manner as Supes.

Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
Count Nefaria and Thor are peers in strength as well. He caught Mjolnir in the very same manner as Supes.

i read up on that a bit it appears That count Nefaria had a great boost as he stole altas power and a few other villains and his along with taking altas power it was increased 100 fold so i think it is safe to say that is one hello of a boost.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
i read up on that a bit it appears That count Nefaria had a great boost as he stole altas power and a few other villains and his along with taking altas power it was increased 100 fold so i think it is safe to say that is one hello of a boost.

Originally posted by lawest9
You're right, my memory of that story when thor and CN were fighting and CN was uplifting an skyscapper toward thor, the t-God thought to himself "he is lifting that building with a casual ease that not even I can match" I would think that this could be used as evidence that both nefaria and superman may well be stronger than thor.

Pre crisis supes yes but thats about it, I think the midguard serphant ways a bit more then a skyscraper lol

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thor has stated he holds back twice once when he fought a low level street villian forgot the issues and then in the new series when he smack down ironman issue 2 or 3 he said he no longer is holding back they are both now for holding back both you can argue back and fourth about who is strouger but they are close in strength noway should supes be able to catch mjolnir.

What do you mean no way should Supes catch Mjlonir? Considering the circumstances surrounding that moment it is quite believable for Supes to have been able to grab the hammer.

People say Mjlonir can shatter planets (and Supes says he could do the same with his fists) but the reality is Thor doesn't throw Earth shattering blows with every swing of Mjlonir, just like Supes doesn't throw his planet shattering punches with every swing of his fist.

So with that in mind, and given that Thor was weakened by Supes attacks up to that point, it's not unreasonable that Supes could grab Mjlonir.

Team one wins.
DS>>Everyone
Thanos>Everyone But DS. But Thor and Superman are close to Thanos IMO.
Thor>Superman. In overall power and versatility.

Thanos>>Durability with DS and Superman Tying.

But Thor has better energy block than anyone.
DS and Thor also have Trump powers that the other team doesn't have.

Godblast and Omega Effect combo for the Ultimate Win.

Originally posted by Allankles
What do you mean no way should Supes catch Mjlonir? Considering the circumstances surrounding that moment it is quite believable for Supes to have been able to grab the hammer.

People say Mjlonir can shatter planets (and Supes says he could do the same with his fists) but the reality is Thor doesn't throw Earth shattering blows with every swing of Mjlonir, just like Supes doesn't throw his planet shattering punches with every swing of his fist.

So with that in mind, and given that Thor was weakened by Supes attacks up to that point, it's not unreasonable that Supes could grab Mjlonir.

You have some great points but on the sameway of thinking Supes was weaken 2 for the fight by him catching the hammer and surprising Thor it makes it look like supes has a huge strength and duraability over Thor.

Given Thor's way of fighting with his fist over his other powers Supes should come out on top.I have no problem with Thor losing to supes but stopping the hammer is a bit much. Thor using all his power smartly should out do supes imo. In a brawl supes i think would have the edge
6 out 10 but given Thor powers he should win 6 out 10.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
You have some great points but on the sameway of thinking Supes was weaken 2 for the fight by him catching the hammer and surprising Thor it makes it look like supes has a huge strength and duraability over Thor.

Given Thor's way of fighting with his fist over his other powers Supes should come out on top.I have no problem with Thor losing to supes but stopping the hammer is a bit much. Thor using all his power smartly should out do supes imo. In a brawl supes i think would have the edge
6 out 10 but given Thor powers he should win 6 out 10.

I think a 5/10 split or 6/10 either way is fair.

Originally posted by Allankles
People say Mjlonir can shatter planets (and Supes says he could do the same with his fists) but the reality is Thor doesn't throw Earth shattering blows with every swing of Mjlonir

Who says this? The only time I know of him shattering a planet with one swing of Mjolnir was when he was in WM mode, amped 10 times his normal strength level.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Who says this? The only time I know of him shattering a planet with one swing of Mjolnir was when he was in WM mode, amped 10 times his normal strength level.

BRB did it with storm breaker. Stormbreaker is equal to Thor as is bill.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Who says this? The only time I know of him shattering a planet with one swing of Mjolnir was when he was in WM mode, amped 10 times his normal strength level.

I was just trying to elaborate my point. which is given the circumstances it was well within Superman's means to stop the hammer.

This is the same hammer blow that was stopped dead by Rulk's head.

Also people fail to address other factors like Supes' speed, he could conceivably see the blow coming at him in slow motion and then steel/harden/tighten his body to absorb the impact of the blow.

Originally posted by Allankles
I was just trying to elaborate my point. which is given the circumstances it was well within Superman's means to stop the hammer.

This is the same hammer blow that was stopped dead by Rulk's head.

Also people fail to address other factors like Supes' speed, he could conceivably see the blow coming at him in slow motion and then steel/harden/tighten his body to absorb the impact of the blow.

Rulk head you mean the first time when he grabed Thors hand and hit him with the hammer or the 2nd time when Thor was laying the smack down.

Anyway please try not to use Rulk as an example Loeb is trash and everything he touch turns to trush .

I like to think of Rulk as the Santa claus and the easter bunny just a folklore that doesn't exist LMAO

The supe speed think could be shown him reaction but to absorb a blow either way would of still hand a greater impact on him.

Whether or not Superman can catch a hammer swing probably isn't going to be the deciding factor in this fight anyway.

Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
Whether or not Superman can catch a hammer swing probably isn't going to be the deciding factor in this fight anyway.

True but i was debating that supes and Thor were more or less equal.

I think either side could take this it just depends how they play there cards. i would lean toward Team 2 if supes could hold of Darkseid long enough for thanos to take our Thor which shouldn't take so long. Then supes and Thanos finish off Darkseid. But this is only one way to do it and only a 6/10 for team 2

Originally posted by Allankles
Also people fail to address other factors like Supes' speed, he could conceivably see the blow coming at him in slow motion and then steel/harden/tighten his body to absorb the impact of the blow.

I've still never seen this "super density" ability you keep harping on in any Superman comic I've read in the last 10 years.