Punisher vs. Deathstroke

Originally posted by godking
devise a scenario where Frank can get a win by outsmarting him.

Frank is outclassed here.

Look I know its really hard for you to understand that Frank can beat DS with prep and you just cant stand to lose an argument, but I dont have to describe a situation where Frank can beat DS. All I know is that DS isnt smarter than Cap (IMO)and hes defintely not smarter than Dr Doom. If you're not man enough to to take the info its not my problem.

What nonsense! Its like me saying that Shang Chi has beaten dardevil in h2h combat and Captain America in combat and then you asking my to describe how Shang Chi could beat Batman. I dont have to describe nothin the people hes outsmarted is proof enough.

Give it up.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
All I know is that DS isnt smarter than Cap (IMO)

haermm

If you think that's funny, you should read more throughoutly.

He practically says that unless you're smarter then Doom, you're not beating Punisher in a prep fight.

Sounds familiar ? 🙂

I actually think Deathstroke is smarter than Cap call me crazy Frank is a beast but Slade should take a vast majority.

Originally posted by batdude123
haermm

Prove it.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If you think that's funny, you should read more throughoutly.

He practically says that unless you're smarter then Doom, you're not beating Punisher in a prep fight.

Sounds familiar ? 🙂

Nope. Im saying he has decent chance of beating DS with prep. He may still lose even if he has prep but hes outsmarted people as smart or smarter than DS so he has a good chance.

Thats the end of that.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I actually think Deathstroke is smarter than Cap call me crazy

Can you prove it?

Originally posted by iceman24567

Frank is a beast but Slade should take a vast majority.

I agree but im just talkong about prep.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Prove it.

Seriously? barker

You're the one who made the ridiculous claim that Cap is smarter than Deathstroke, not I. The onus is on you to prove your claim; not on me to prove a negative. So unless you want to look like a moronic jackass *cough TOO LATE cough*, I'd suggest providing us with your reasons as to why you feel the way you do.

Of course, I already know the answer...

Deathstroke wins here. He's more than just a enhanced Punisher (as some posters have said), Slade has more years of experience and before he got his enhancements, he was the best. No way in hell would Frank win in a prep battle as well. Slade is on Batman's level of prep, if not better. And h2h skills, there's no contest here. Hell Aqua Man, Wally West, and Hal Jordan could not capture Slade (in Deathstroke the Terminator # 13), and Slade's strength, stamina, reflexes were cut in half. Not to mention he was also hurt and his HF was dam near gone.

Originally posted by batdude123
Seriously? barker

You're the one who made the ridiculous claim that Cap is smarter than Deathstroke, not I. So unless you want to look like a moronic jackass *cough TOO LATE cough*, I'd suggest providing us with your reasons as to why you feel the way you do.

Of course, I already know the answer...

Well I didnt say that Cap was smarter than Deathstroke so since you're telling me I said something I didnt say it looks like you look stupid. 😐

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well I didnt say that Cap was smarter than Deathstroke

You surely didn't, alfheim.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Deathstroke isnt smarter than Captain America or Dr Doom, give it up.

Phantom Zone, demanding that the person you are debating with 'Give it up' is not how you debate. Please refrain from doing so.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well I didnt say that Cap was smarter than Deathstroke so since you're telling me I said something I didnt say it looks like you look stupid.

Now wheres the proof that DS is smarter? 😐

facepalm

You made an erroneous claim that has no merit. I laughed at you. Nothing more, nothing less.

Once again, the onus is one YOU to prove why you think the way you do. What you're doing is akin to saying "I FEEL THAT X CHARACTER IS BETTER THAN Y CHARCTER. NOW PROVE ME WRONG!!!!111"

Unfortunately for you, it doesn't work that way.

But it's okay, I'm not expecting you to understand this. 🙂

Originally posted by Philosophía
You surely didn't, alfheim.

You do realise that if somebody isnt smarter than somebody he can be just as smart right? Ok that the end of that.

Originally posted by batdude123
facepalm

You made an erroneous claim that has no merit. I laughed at you. Nothing more, nothing less.

Again you're laughing at something I didnt say.

Originally posted by batdude123

Once again, the onus is one YOU to prove why you think the way you do. What you're doing is akin to saying "I FEEL THAT X CHARACTER IS BETTER THAN Y CHARCTER. NOW PROVE ME WRONG!!!!111"

Unfortunately for you, it doesn't work that way.

But it's okay, I'm not expecting you to understand this. 🙂

No actually I think that Cap and DS are equals intellectually and Dr Doom is smarter than DS. You're not going to ask me for proof that Dr Doom is smarter?

I dont need to provide evidence for something I didnt say.

I just want to put further emphasis on this exchange, in case anybody missed it and wants some lulz.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well I didnt say that Cap was smarter than Deathstroke so since you're telling me I said something I didnt say it looks like you look stupid. 😐

Originally posted by Philosophía
You surely didn't, alfheim.

[QUOTE=11475345]Originally posted by Phantom Zone
[B]Deathstroke isnt smarter than Captain America or Dr Doom, give it up.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You do realise that if somebody isnt smarter than somebody he can be just as smart right? Ok that the end of that.

crylaugh

*shrug* Lets try this one more time because you dont understand.

I think that DS and Cap are equals intellectually. Just because I said that DS isnt smarter than Cap doesnt neccesarily mean that Cap is superior. Stating that somebody isnt superior to somebody doesnt negate the fact that they can be equals.

I cant explain it any better than that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Again you're laughing at something I didnt say.

It's still hilarious.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No actually I think that Cap and DS are equals intellectually and Dr Doom is smarter than DS. You're not going to ask me for proof that Dr Doom is smarter?

I dont need to provide evidence for something I didnt say.

You need to prove why you think Captain America is just as smart as Slade.

Originally posted by batdude123

You need to prove why you think Captain America is just as smart as Slade.

Not neccesarily. It goes both ways but obvously you take yourself to serioulsy. You're assuming that DS is superior, im not going to assume that he is if theres no proof.

Originally posted by batdude123
It's still hilarious.

I-its shilarious that you're laughing at something I didnt say? Ooook.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Not neccesarily. It goes both ways but obvously you take yourself to serioulsy. You're assuming that DS is superior, im not going to assume that he is if theres no proof.

I-its shilarious that you're laughing at something I didnt say? Ooook.

You're continuing to cloud the issue because you realize your opinion has no basis or reasoning behind it.

Gotcha. 😉

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
*shrug* Lets try this one more time because you dont understand.

I think that DS and Cap are equals intellectually. Just because I said that DS isnt smarter than Cap doesnt neccesarily mean that Cap is superior. Stating that somebody isnt superior to somebody doesnt negate the fact that they can be equals.

I cant explain it any better than that.

There's nothing to understand really. A dodge, especially one like this one, isn't hard to see.

You saying that you actually mean that they are equals intellectually is a cop-out, an idiocy, not only from a feat and fact-based stance, but from a logical position aswell.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're continuing to cloud the issue because you realize your opinion has no basis or reasoning behind it.

Gotcha. 😉

The problem is that we have two characters here that have feats of strategy and planning. Either one of us could decide to provide proof that either them or equal or superior but for some reason you're just assuming that its up to me to provide proof.

What feats does Cap have to prove that hes a master strategist? Well hes outmsarted master strategists like The Red Skull, he shown extremly high intelligence by mastering an alien martial art in one day. Hes escaped from skrull handcuffs that were capable of shape-shifting and adapating to a person that not only had shape-shifting powers but advanced shape-shifting powers such as turning to air, liquid and energy. Hes been a constant leader of The Avengers and leader of The Avengers, Xmen and FF. 😐

So what exactly has DS done that makes him superior? No doubt you're probably just going to fob me off and say those feats are not good enough.

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
There's nothing to understand really. A dodge, especially one like this one, isn't hard to see.

You saying that you actually mean that they are equals intellectually is a cop-out, an idiocy, not only from a feat and fact-based stance, but from a logical position aswell.

Whatever makes you feel happy.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I just want to put further emphasis on this exchange, in case anybody missed it and wants some lulz.

😂