Originally posted by Gumachi
Vergil is too fast and could knock The Blade out of his hand if he uses Beowulf.[which gives him bruteforce strength]YouTube video I don't see HOW he couldn't do this to Kratos.
Kratos isn't blind, first of all.
Vergil beat Dante once in DMC3, and in DMC1 he beat him twice. Vergil is stronger than Dante in DMC3, and he probably was stronger than him as Nelo-Angelo.
You really think he'd be able to take Ryu & Vergil at the same time? Yeah, right. Yamato? Spiral Swords? Beowulf? Force Edge? Have you seen the speed of Vergil when use uses Force Edge & Yamato? Kratos has NEVER fought anyone at their high-rate of speed.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Vergil beat Dante once in DMC3, and in DMC1 he beat him twice. Vergil is stronger than Dante in DMC3, and he probably was stronger than him as Nelo-Angelo.You really think he'd be able to take Ryu & Vergil at the same time? Yeah, right. Yamato? Spiral Swords? Beowulf? Force Edge? Have you seen the speed of Vergil when use uses Force Edge & Yamato? Kratos has NEVER fought anyone at their high-rate of speed.
The strongest form of Dante is DMC2 Dante, and the strongest form of Vergil is Nelo-Angelo in DMC1. Yeah, I think Dante would beat Vergil. If you count Vergil pinning Dante up against a wall[and nearly owning his ass--IF NOT OWNED], then Vergil has 2 wins also. Don't forget Vergil is faster than Dante.
Vergil defeated Dante once in DMC3.
Dante defeated Vergil once in DMC3 & once in DMC1.
Originally posted by Gumachi
The strongest form of Dante is DMC2 Dante, and the strongest form of Vergil is Nelo-Angelo in DMC1. Yeah, I think Dante would beat Vergil. If you count Vergil pinning Dante up against a wall[and nearly owning his ass--IF NOT OWNED], then Vergil has 2 wins also. Don't forget Vergil is faster than Dante.
What Vergil did to Beowulf if you don't wanna watch.
YouTube video
@2:28-All the actions starts there[or 2:33 it's up to you]
YouTube video
YouTube video @52[where the action starts]-Devil Bringer--Spirit Of Vergil[if that counts]
I can't think of anymore[he probably has more feats]. And don't forget the spirit[arm]of Vergil dwelling in Nero.
Originally posted by GumachiWhat Vergil did to Beowulf if you don't wanna watch.
YouTube video@2:28-All the actions starts there[or 2:33 it's up to you]
YouTube videoYouTube video @52[where the action starts]-Devil Bringer--Spirit Of Vergil[if that counts]
I can't think of anymore[he probably has more feats]. And don't forget the spirit[arm]of Vergil dwelling in Nero.
1st one is only real feat, 3rd and 2nd one could easily have been pis, and 4th one had nothing to do with vergil doing a feat. none of those come near anything dante has done. ever. some of those videos actually gave dante some feats.
Originally posted by Gumachi
What's PIS?
Originally posted by Gumachi
He isn't fast either and your kinda missing the point.
That's not my point either. Aside from Kratos not being blind, he isn't so slow as to spend a fraction of an entire scene talking before raising his fist. That, and Kratos has done better with his bare hands than what Vergil's done with Beowulf, aside from having far more resources than a giant mutant hound that can't see.
You really think he'd be able to take Ryu & Vergil at the same time? Yeah, right. Yamato? Spiral Swords? Beowulf? Force Edge? Have you seen the speed of Vergil when use uses Force Edge & Yamato? Kratos has NEVER fought anyone at their high-rate of speed.
But he HAS fought beings and attained states VASTLY more powerful OVERALL. I have yet to see anyone in DMC do to anyone what the GoW Gods (who are, if anything, more powerful than in Greek Mythology) have done to entire armies, there's not been a single feat in DMC's weapons that are superior to even Ares with a pillar, and Kratos has at least twice as many answers to something like Beowulf, Lighting Lightning Bolts/Tornadoes/Minature Suns etc are frankly >>> Spiral Swords imho, and as far as Force Edge is concerned, he's never even used it's full form, which I'm still not convinced is anything to the likes of Pandora's Box or the Blade of Olympus, both of which are more than enough to win Kratos any fight against them. Kratos may not have better speed than Ryu or Vergil, but he does have better strength, range, magic, weapons, ground cover, overall resources, and a more powerful prime state.
And last I checked, Vergil having anything to do with *****-fist's hammerspace hand is mostly speculation aside from Yamato having to do with awakening his DT. Don't get me wrong, it would be kind of ignorant to put aside a few similarites between that spcter and Vergil's DT, but has there been some sort of recent confirmation?
Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
That's not my point either. Aside from Kratos not being blind, he isn't so slow as to spend a fraction of an entire scene talking before raising his fist. That, and Kratos has done better with his bare hands than what Vergil's done with Beowulf, aside from having far more resources than a giant mutant hound that can't see.But he HAS fought beings and attained states VASTLY more powerful OVERALL. I have yet to see anyone in DMC do to anyone what the GoW Gods (who are, if anything, more powerful than in Greek Mythology) have done to entire armies, there's not been a single feat in DMC's weapons that are superior to even Ares with a pillar, and Kratos has at least twice as many answers to something like Beowulf, Lighting Lightning Bolts/Tornadoes/Minature Suns etc are frankly >>> Spiral Swords imho, and as far as Force Edge is concerned, he's never even used it's full form, which I'm still not convinced is anything to the likes of Pandora's Box or the Blade of Olympus, both of which are more than enough to win Kratos any fight against them. Kratos may not have better speed than Ryu or Vergil, but he does have better strength, range, magic, weapons, ground cover, overall resources, and a more powerful prime state.
Barehands? Maybe. And Vergil is still 10x faster than Kratos.
More powerful in Greek Myth? Hmmm...I don't know about that one. Well, Sparda took on Hells Armies. Dante's/Vergil's Devil Trigger is as powerful as the power Kratos needed to defeat Ares. I agree on that one[>>>Spiral things]. Vergil still has his Devil Trigger. The reason why I think he can beat Kratos, is because Capcom said: "Identical Faces, Identical Powers. "