SILVER SURFER vs ORION

Originally posted by cloud102
Orion matching universal destroying energies isn't necessarily PIS. What people tend to forget is that New Gods in GENERAL are supposed to be near abstract, above super-heroes.

Grant Morrison has said he was guilty in this. In that he made Orion super-hero level. He corrected this in 7 Soldiers, though. Darkseid creating multiple universes/realties show how Jack Kibry wanted the New Gods to be. Separate from regular super-hero reality.

Simonson was also going to show this, but never came to be. 🙁

I know that dc/marvel crossovers aren't usually given much regard on these threads, but ever since i read GALACTUS vs DARKSEID, john byrne has ruined orion for me, he made a complete joke out of orion when he went up against SS. Not saying that orion just had to win, but it should have been a much closer fight than it was. byrne obviously favors marvel characters in a big way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is only according to some writers as many others have them all in the same ballpark as Superman.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Lightray alone has created Super suns. That is far out side the power of Superman.

What about saving the Omniverse?

Originally posted by KSlice
What about saving the Omniverse?

Originally posted by fangirl101
By phasing a run away planet? Or did superman save the omniverse all at one time? Of course I already know the answer.

What about using Torquasm-Vo to completely mind f*ck a multiversal reality warper?

Originally posted by fangirl101
WTF? Orion has flew from New Gen to Earth in less than a heart beat. Dude Surfer is no way having speed on his side. And Orion actually fights at Superspeeds. Surfer does not. Also, Surfer Owning Nova is nothing. Nova isn't even in the same league with Orion. Wonder Woman can beat Nova easily.

Gladiator can fly at 100 times the speed of light. So what? What does that have to do with fighting? Orion has flown faster anyway.

Surfer have traveled at speeds over human comprehension. That beat Orion, nah? And he speedblitzed Nova in his fight. We all know that Nova is ftl too.
Wtf Wonder Woman do in this fight? Dosn't change the fact that Surfer own her too.

Prove that Orion can go faster that 100 time the speed of light.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Surfer have traveled at speeds over human comprehension. That beat Orion, nah? And he speedblitzed Nova in his fight. We all know that Nova is ftl too.
Wtf Wonder Woman do in this fight? Dosn't change the fact that Surfer own her too.

Prove that Orion can go faster that 100 time the speed of light.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Traveling from New Genesis to Earth in Under A heart beat is certainly faster than 100 times the speed of light.

How can you say that?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
How can you say that?

Originally posted by fangirl101
becuz New genesis and Apok exist in the center of the universe of an entirely different universe. Which means Orion flew from the center of his universe, which super cedes the main dcu into the outer edges of the dcu ( where the milky way is) in less than a heart beat. A healthy human heart beat is less than a second.

http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?c

And multiply that by 100.

This is INSANE!

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?c

And multiply that by 100.

This is INSANE!

what are you saying? I"m saying Orion Already has flown far far faster than 100 times light speed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then he destroyed the planet. regardless,owning ravenous isn't enough to override Orion's physical prowess.

Damn screw it... I hate photobucket...

current Orion w/ MB and Astral Harness FTW

Current Orion?

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is only according to some writers as many others have them all in the same ballpark as Superman.

Most writers write Orion in the super-hero ballpark. Top tier. Im just saying that the creator, Jack Kirby intended the New Gods in general to be far above that.

When Superman first visited New Genesis, he was at awe of the petty guards alone. They were all moving at super speeds beyond his capabilities.

In Ostrander's Martian Manhunter run, it was shown and stated that the lowliest of Apokolips were immune to Martian telepathy.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Lightray alone has created Super suns. That is far out side the power of Superman.

Originally posted by Ambient
How about this guys?
Krokasis (Glads + Enigma foce)
Lunatic
Morg
Amp Champion

Damn screw it... I hate photobucket...

Do you think Surfer could defeat orion in a fistacuffs brawl?

Originally posted by Raoul
final crisis 6.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So much for nvr and Trick claiming that Radion's been rectonned out of existence in DC huh? Boy I bet they're both pissed...

Do you think that Surfer could create Radion, Darth?

It seems like SS was tailor made for the vs. forum...