Originally posted by horrorwolf
Perhaps I should clear this up. 😉Thanos is his Classic incarnation.
Doomsday is HP version
Darksied is Classic DS.
Orion is his current self.
The [B]only
powerup in this fight is the PowerGem, and for purposes of this skirmish, Thanos is in posession of it for the entireity of this 3 on 1. [/B]
Wasn't the last incarnation of Orion, the agent of the source?
The one who stalemated the all powerful Darkseid?
Like I said that Orion, wins this on his own.
Originally posted by horrorwolfIt doesn't matter what you meant to say, it wasn't stated. We've been very clear about changing rules and stipulations several pages into the thread. It cause to much bickering and confusing. And it started way before 1 page ago.
Actually it was one page ago someone mentioned the ALE.There's no ALE present for purposes of this thread.
Originally posted by AllanklesFrom page 2 of this thread.
The ALE is knowledge, an equation and no he isn't always searching for the ALE.
Originally posted by Naija boyFrom page 4.
Wait does DS have the ale in this match? If he does then team wins
Originally posted by Naija boyPage 5.
I realised that forum rules specify current versions of the character unless otherwise stated. So if its current DS then the team wins
Originally posted by AllanklesPage 7 talking about current DS.
Whatever. I'm just pointing out the facts if you read FC you know that DS is out of commission in fc 2, 3 and much of 4 (where he is getting his new body) there was no way he would have known Bats had the single bullet he'd used to kill Orion in his U belt.No way to monitor Bats or take care of his belt, that job was for Simyan, Mokkari and other gods in charge of the cloning project that back fired. It was Goodness who captured Bats, Simyan and Mokkari who dealt with him after, DS' was prepping his new body at the time.
You can't use jla/avengers since GM was totally different in the IG quest. He reneged on the rules of engagement and lost, if anything he should have been smarter, given that wagers and games are his MO.
So, does that make it any less simple?
Originally posted by Digi
Debating Format[b]Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below. [/B]
The thread is most current versions. Thanks.
Originally posted by BadabingIs gay that i find this post attractive? durfist
It doesn't matter what you meant to say, it wasn't stated. We've been very clear about changing rules and stipulations several pages into the thread. It cause to much bickering and confusing. And it started way before 1 page ago.
From page 2 of this thread. From page 4. Page 5. Page 7 talking about current DS.The thread is most current versions. Thanks.
Originally posted by AllanklesNo,he doesn't.
He controls them as the master of the omega force.What part of I don't give a damn about that argument don't you get? In a forum battle non of the things you mentioned would count, so why would I waste my energy talking about some aberrant showing? You don't seem to grasp that.
I didn't say he wasn't GM. You seem to be misunderstanding me.
I said that years earlier in IG he showed non of the qualities he demonstrated in jla/avengers.
I don't need to read between the lines to see that, nor do I need to support you fanboy wanking of Thanos off of an unrelated portrayal of GM in jla/avengers.
Again there's nothing that GM showed previous to jla/avengers in IG to suggest he was any great shakes in intellect.
Supreme by stealing some gems off a few scrubs and falling into a well of power called Hotu. Hardly the stuff of great accomplishments. DS ascended to the throne of Apokolips through careful scheming, from manipulating and corrupting Desaad into a sadist, to framing his uncle.
He has on panel feats showing him defeating advanced alien civilizations. He has on panel feats taking over skyfather realms. On panel feats subjagating the denizens of his conquests in armagetto. Really what are you talking about.
You keep repeating this like its a mantra, what's up?
DS wouldn't need armies taking on some Elder scrubs one-on-one either, as some of them own each other, while others don't even understand the nature of the gems they had. He wouldn't need help falling into a well of power called Hotu. Are you trying to be dense?
And? DS has done better than Thanos and handled time manipulating skyfathers (and guess what?) he never needed an army.
First of all did you read the story? Ares never outmaneuvered DS to the godwave. Adam Warlock has hardly contended with Thanos to the extent Highfather has with DS. Also Highfather has access to an infinite well of knowledge and is called the "keeper of mysteries" I doubt Warlock can match wits with a guy who has the knowledge of god.
Highfather is fiddling with DS plans at several turns. I wouldn't put Warlock on the same level. Where was he when Thanos was with the CC or taking the IG from the Elder scrubs or even Hotu? And before you deign to answer, that was rhetorical question.
I suggest you reread the story. At no point does it say they were tapping into the Source, the only thing of note in regards to power that is even mentioned is when DS tells Orion that he can't hope to hurt him unless he taps into his inner spirit to unleash the demon inside himself.
Further DS (unlike Odin) can actually create enough power to make an event horizon powerful enough to draw in the entire multiverse.
Again, you have a problem with bricks? And isn't HP/DD considered uber? Also I didn't see Apokolips using all the power and tech they have available in that story, as is typical with that kind of plot the author went with minimalism with Apokolips seeming rather bear in that story arch.
Making clones is nothing special in comics. DS doesn't need to make clones to create team wreckers.
DS has created beings like Validus and Brimestone with his own power alone. Thanos is a trans to low skyfather with nowhere near the same amount of power.
So,his losses do not count? His highs are nowhere near Thanos' so how does classic Ds even compete?
If it is GM it counts and you cannot ignore it.
Different writer and we accept all showings if they are in continutiy such as this one.
Here is you every high moment from Ds counts,even gds feats,alternate timelines,etc. while we ignore Thanos high moments and argue that the characters he faced are just idiots. That is basically what you are trying to do and it is clear to everyone.
Again,you cannot ignore it just because you do not like Thanos and like Ds.
So what? Ds overtook a planet by having desaad poison his mother. Wow....how genius. I mean poisoning your own mother to ascend to the throne and not winning it in battle is pathetic imo. Thanos doesn't settle for small time goals such as conquering a single planet. He has had the universe in his hands multiple times. Many heroes assemble to stop him and have also failed. Ds always fails.
A Thanos clone took Odin out of the game and almost took over asgard. The real Thanos doesn't just try to manipulate skyfathers its to small-time for him.
Scans of these awesome feats?
Ds wouldn't put himself in harms way in the thanos quest. He just isn't that daring. he would need help while Thanos didn't. Thanos understood that the hotu existed and took steps in order to be in that very situation. The supreme being needed Thanos to right the universal flaw. That is pretty damn amazing.
Ares had Ds beaten from the beginning. That was the glorious part he tricked them all,killed Izaya,and put himself in the right situation. Ds was always two steps behind Ares who thought of this before Ds.
What?Warlock usually pits wills against him over the fate of the universe not over a planetary war......I mean again Doomsday conquered apokolips by himself pretty much. I mean a guy with no intelligence defeated the mighty Darkseid by punching and kicking his entire planet into the ground. Is that how much of a genius Darkseid is,he cannot even defeat a mindless brick.
Thanos can go toe to toe with a guy(Odin)who can affect the multiverse in battle.
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Ds creates clones while at the same time gets his ass kicked by top tiers. Not that impressed by a top tiers power level. Forgive me here.