Broli wins via better feats.
Originally posted by TheBadguyEhh, more like a matter manipulator, and he never did any of that while fighting - it was only limited and all the warping came from his birth (Janemba's presence pretty much warped everything).
ssj4 Gogeta was intended to be the strongest character in all of dragonball anything. A weaker version of him shitstomped a mass reality manipulator.
Originally posted by Pyron_Express
Broli wins via better feats.Ehh, more like a matter manipulator, and he never did any of that while fighting - it was only limited and all the warping came from his birth (Janemba's presence pretty much warped everything).
Feats trumping everything belongs in the comics vs forum, this is anime/manga which relies way more on tiers than feats. Roshi has better feats than King Cold but you know Cold would annihilate him.
reality/matter manipulator, just because he started warping everything before the fight with Goku doesn't take away from the fact that he did it. Off memory he made dimension portals that he could deconstruct and reconstruct himself with, send whatever through (like his fists or blasts) and bring back where he wanted it to be, make mass copies of himself and copies of his opponents who could do their attacks, he warped all of the afterlife, made giant jellybeans everywhere through the afterlife, gave back people's bodies even those that had been dead for years beyond what the dragonballs could bring back, and removed the barrier between the afterlife and the living world.
Originally posted by Robtard
If we're twisting things around to better fit the character we like, as done with Jango on multiple occasions and by multiple people, yes Jango does win.
I had a perfectly good argument going until RJ came and destroyed everything with his wanking. Don't pin that on me!
There's a reason why I dislike debating starwars characters in the movie section. ermm
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Janemba's warping was not as impressive as you are making it sound, at least not in battle, in battle he did nothing of the sort.Broly is not part of the same canon timeframe as SSJ4 Gogeta, so saying that he is a SSJ4 or whatever is not a viable argument.
from memory in the actual fight with goku he:
made dozens of clones of himself
made a clone of Goku that copied the kameha
turned a stone into a sword, the sword looked like it may have been cutting through the dimension
opened mutliple portals through the dimension at will, could redirect attacks with these portals
could deconstruct/reconstruct himself piece by piece with these portals
and could use the portals to attack from anywhere
Even if Janemba wasn't much more powerful than Broly, Broly is too stupid, his blasts would be sent right back at him. Do you think Broly could beat ssj Gogeta from the movie?
Aside from neither necessarily being canon, there's really no reason for Broly to win this unless Gogeta's cockiness and time limit is maintained here, and even then, Broly would have to deal with two SSJ4s. One can list his galaxy busting feat all they want, but TheBadGuy pretty much had it right that tiers from the series' progression mean more than actual feats in the Dragonballverse.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
I had a perfectly good argument going until RJ came and destroyed everything with his wanking. Don't pin that on me!There's a reason why I dislike debating starwars characters in the movie section. ermm
I know, you know how to engage with objectivity.
So true, that.
Originally posted by travis10
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Gogeta ssj4 win really quicky (because he fused with goku and vegeta ssj4 so 4+4= 8 so he strong as super saiyan 8). Broly Lssj (only can get strongest levels is ssj4 that how much lssj can max level)
There's no actual number for the power of Legendary Super Saiyan its just people pretty much shitting out numbers. Lssj is strong but GT universe is on a different level so Idk I'd put Lssj at SSj3 but slightly better due to the fact it does not waste energy at an insanely riduclous amount. I think that's part of the reason why it was so hard for the Z Senshi to deal with him. This is all just speculation on my part however and should be treated as a grain of salt.