Savage Bannerless Hulk vs Thor

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, they should've made Thor use Mjolnir like the way he uses it in comics against enemies...godblasts and teleportation...oh wait, he almost never does! 🙄

Dude, all of Asgard was in danger. Odin was deep asleep, Hulk had plowed through the entire Asgardian Army.

Thor would have destroyed 8 of the nine worlds to stop Hulk at that point. Thor was misrepresented as any Thor fan would undoubtedly know. He was also downgraded etc.

Thor can take on the Banner less Hulk's blows and keep his ground.

Originally posted by Naija boy
thnks

No prob.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Thor can take on the Banner less Hulk's blows and keep his ground.

wow. just. wow. speechless.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so you think Thor is more durable than Onslaught?!

wow. just. wow. speechless.

I never said that but I got my answer from the on panel evidence.

Thor has shown he can take Banner Less Hulk's blows.

Thor would have done just as good as Hulk did at the very least, if not better against Onslaught's armor.

If he can break through the armor of a Celestial, there is no reason why, he cannot do the same against Onslaught....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I never said that but I got my answer from the on panel evidence.

The Onslaught who fought all of Marvel Earth at his strongest? No, I do not think Classic Thor is more durable when taking into account their "power sets".

Originally posted by Starscream M
so let me ask you again: do you think Thor is more durable than Onslaught? yes or no please.

Thor isn't incredibly hard like a metal shell. He is softer but can soak up more damage to what can damage him. If he takes the type of open ass shot right on the chin, he's going down. If he takes it anywhere else, he's good for battle still. He's not going to shatter though...

Besides, Cyke managed to crack Onslaugh's armor on his own iirc, and then Thor flew right through it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Onslaught who fought all of Marvel Earth at his strongest? No, I do not think Classic Thor is more durable when taking into account their "power sets".

Originally posted by Starscream M
so then how is it you think Thor could take mindless hulk's blows when they devastated Onslaught?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dude, Savage Hulk has always been Savage Hulk.

Thor has been downgraded yes, but he is still more powerful than WWH etc. If he wasn't he would still be Rune King Thor.

What would be the point of having conflicts on Earth then?

Hulk was upgraded, because it was necessary, Thor was downgraded because it was also necessary. Hulk needed to be more powerful, hence Green Scar, Thor was already more powerful, hence no Odin Force but a Thor Force.

Are we supposed to right of all their battles just like that?

Their last fight was in 2001 were Thor knocked out Hulk again!

So your point was?

It still stands, Classic Thor > Savage Hulk. Even now.

Current Thor > Hulk to an even greater degree.

What's the argument here for?

Don't even bring up the Red Hulk. That was PIS, did Loeb forget Thor has unlimited and total control of Mjolnir. Honestly, I would think that Odin's enchantment would still work in space. Christ....

Either Loeb is a moron (Which he is) and he can't write anything decent, or Thor wanted for Red Hulk to take his hammer and harm him.

Don't forget, Thor came back and was about to kill Red Hulk.

Oh yea, your friend Hulk was knocked out by a broken arm and a choke hold....

What is wrong with you? Movies are not cannon.

I am tired of telling you that. I am honestly on the brink of insulting you.

Marvel counts them as non cannon, why do you keep referring to them.

In the Avengers Reborn movie, Hulk lifted up Ultimate Thor's hammer. It happened but it doesn't make it right based on the comic now does it?

Thor has superior showings against the Hulk, get over it.

It's happened in the past and will happen again.

Stan himself created Thor to be able to match someone like the Hulk in strength but be powerful enough to stalemate Cosmic Beings (Silver Surfer etc. who would massacre the Hulk) and fight of Cosmic Threats.

Since his very creation, he was intended to be:

Classic Thor > Hulk

I'm tired debating with you...

I presented on panel evidence of Thor being able to take Banner Less Hulk's blows, yet you still disagree.

Bringing up years into this. It's a comic. In comics, those fights are not 20 years old etc.

This recent enough for you?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorknockoutHulk1.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorknockoutHulk2.jpg

I can show you the thing about hulk

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A poor depiction of the mindless Hulk, how can it be a poor depiction when it's like basically the first time he appeared?

How does that even make any sense?

Thor has gotten down graded, because he needs to be to have a monthly issue (Although with all the delays it seems like an annual issue).

Hence why he doesn't wield the same power as he did before Ragnarok etc.

Why does Hulk getting stronger, have anything to do with this?

Thor has gotten weaker but the Hulk has gotten stronger. That's great, to bad it still applies as they are in different leagues just as they were back in the day as Classic Thor and Savage Hulk.

Classic Thor > Savage Hulk.

Current Thor > Savage Hulk or WWH.

The only reason you don't hold much value over that issue is because you don't like it. There's no other reason, really.

Thor is still able to match Hulk in hand to hand and still more powerful than Hulk overall (Even more so as his physical stats have been upgraded (Took a blast from the Destroyer and he was still standing), and so has his overall power (Thor Force). So yea).

classic thor > savage hulk, let me laugh

Current thor > wwh, let me laugh again did you take drugs? Redhulk beat the crap of current thor badly and wwh is far more stronger than redhulk
why don't you want understand that Hulk is the strongest one there is, he has limitless strength, the madder he gets the stronger he gets even Stan Lee says that. you know Stan Lee? the creator of hulk and thor
"If I could say the more the Hulk fights and the madder he gets, the stronger he gets, then no one can beat him, because even when they're defeating him he's getting stronger and stronger and madder and madder," explains Stan Lee.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Because the only blow that devastated Onslaught was an incredibly set up shot that Thor most likely won't allow to happen... seeing as he can move, or use Mjolnir as a shield etc.

Originally posted by savage hulk
I can show you the thing about hulk

Yea, well what happens next right after that?

He gets up, brushes of the dust, and gets into the fight again/

He knocks Hulk out after that.

Originally posted by savage hulk
classic thor > savage hulk, let me laugh

Current thor > wwh, let me laugh again did you take drugs? Redhulk beat the crap of current thor badly and wwh is far more stronger than redhulk
why don't you want understand that Hulk is the strongest one there is, he has limitless strength, the madder he gets the stronger he gets even Stan Lee says that. you know Stan Lee? the creator of hulk and thor
"If I could say the more the Hulk fights and the madder he gets, the stronger he gets, then no one can beat him, because even when they're defeating him he's getting stronger and stronger and madder and madder," explains Stan Lee.

Classic Thor > Savage Hulk

That is a fact. In the strength department, Hulk has the edge (Thor can still hold his own, and even win though), but in overall power?

Thor trumps Hulk on every level.

That quote from, Stan Lee doesn't mean much, because he created Thor, to be able to hang with dudes like Hulk in strength but be powerful enough when need be to fight of Cosmic threats....

Hulk has the "potential" for near limitless strength. That's great and I understand his power set, but it still doesn't change the fact, that Thor has stalemated him in every fight they have had, and even knocked him out before.

Current Thor > WWH

That is without question.

World Breaker Hulk was put down by Stark's satellites, was bleeding from a punch from the Thing etc. Thor took a blast from the Destroyer (Who would manhandle the Hulk) and still kept his ground.

He didn't do anything that impressive besides beating Strange.

I mean besides that (Strange would have won if it wasn't for the innocent people), who did he beat that Thor could not?

Thor would stomp Sentry, the Avengers etc.

He didn't fight the true Ghost Rider, he didn't truly fight the Classic Juggernaut, and Black Bolt was a Skrull. Nothing Thor could not accomplish with the same advantages.

Besides, Current Thor has the Thor Force as well, as increased physical stats by a very large degree from his Classic incarnation.

Thor against Red Hulk? He let that happen or Loeb is a moron. Thor can control the movements of his hammer without question. Yes, even in space.

Thor didn't even fight back the entire time. When he came back from Space, pissed of and not surprised anymore, this was the result:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RulkvsThor21.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RulkvsThor22.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RulkvsThor23.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RulkvsThor24.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/RulkvsThor25.jpg

Originally posted by Starscream M
so then how is it you think Thor could take mindless hulk's blows when they devastated Onslaught?

Umm because he has, and Thor has survived Cosmic attacks worse than the physical blow Hulk hit Onslaught with, before.

They did not "devastate" Onslaught, and keep in mind Onslaught wanted that to happen.

I meant that Onslaught, was more durable when taking into account their power sets.

I could believe if someone stated that Thor could have taken the attacks Hulk gave Onslaught seeing as what Thor has survived in the past. The two beings have a "different" type of durability.

He fought Cosmic Beings etc. because he was created for that purpose.

He sent Galactus running with a God Blast for a reason. Thor was always intended to stave of Cosmic threats.

He didn't exactly use his power set against Hulk now did he?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

World Breaker Hulk was put down by Stark's satellites, was bleeding from a punch from the Thing etc. Thor took a blast from the Destroyer (Who would manhandle the Hulk) and still kept his ground.

use a low feat of hulk's and then compare that with a high feat of thor's...great job at not having any bias 🙄

Originally posted by Starscream M
use a low feat of hulk's and then compare that with a high feat of thor's...great job at not having any bias 🙄

I'm comparing, WWH and Thor.

How can it be a low feat?

World Breaker Hulk only lasted for a few panels.

So how can it be a low feat, when he just appeared in that same issue and was put down?

How can that even make sense?

By the way, I'm not bias.

I'm basing the outcome of this thread, on their previous encounters. I have on panel proof etc.

well, you're the only person in the world who thinks Thor is more durable than mindless Hulk

Aren't we talking about WWH and Current Thor, at this exact moment?

I am not the only person who thinks Current Thor, is more durable than WWH.

It's right there in their comic appearances.

WWH has been punched by the Thing and has bled, and his strongest incarnation, World Breaker was taken down by satellites (He wanted it to happen to a point, that is true, but he couldn't control his own power, much less his durability level).

Current Thor took a blast from the Destroyer and held his ground.

Do you know how powerful that attack is?

I am not the only person who thinks this.

WWH did nothing impressive in the entire, redundant arc. He beat Strange because of his internal power struggle (He would have lost in my opinion if not for that), but besides that he did nothing impressive. Oh, I forgot. He stalemated Sentry (Probably his greatest feat in this arc next to Strange)....

What did WWH do, than an average Kryptonian, with the "same advantages" couldn't?

When Thor was created, this (Thor > Hulk) was intended. He was created to be able to match beings like Hulk in strength, but be beyond them in overall power.

Classic Thor, stalemated the Classic Silver Surfer etc. on different occasions etc.