Celestials vs Magic

Started by iceman2456715 pages

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
Quote "Mordru's Top efforts show him fashioning galaxy destroying fireballs out of one hand with ease"

This was the exact feat that i was referring to when i said Mordru's top effort wouldn't damage a Celestial. Not like anyone cares, Mordru's been long forgotten and rightly so in this thread.

Pre Zero Hour Mordru would solo these Celestials with fire balls that can destroy Galaxies.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Pre Zero Hour Mordru would solo these Celestials with fire balls that can destroy Galaxies.

Odin destroys Galaxies and he is nothing against the Celestials.

Originally posted by Bentley
Odin destroys Galaxies and he is nothing against the Celestials.

When ?

Originally posted by skygunner41
When ?

His battle against Infinity. 😉

Originally posted by Bentley
His battle against Infinity. 😉

A Marvel Galaxy 😉

DC galaxies are harder to destroy

Originally posted by Bentley
Odin destroys Galaxies and he is nothing against the Celestials.

Galactus also has only destroyed galaxies in the fight with Tyrant, making it a shared feat to boot.

Would you say that all Galaxy destroyers are the same ? Or yet again, are you suggesting that nothing less than Universal destroyers would be capable of beating the Celestials ? 🙂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Galactus also has only destroyed galaxies in the fight with Tyrant, making it a shared feat to boot.

Would you say that all Galaxy destroyers are the same ? Or yet again, are you suggesting that nothing less than Universal destroyers would be capable of beating the Celestials ? 🙂

Damn! Foiled again!

Originally posted by Philosophía
Galactus also has only destroyed galaxies in the fight with Tyrant, making it a shared feat to boot.

Would you say that all Galaxy destroyers are the same ? Or yet again, are you suggesting that nothing less than Universal destroyers would be capable of beating the Celestials ? 🙂

Galactus has destroyed dimensions against Agamotto; Galactus and Tyrant wasn't his highest feat. Moleculeman and Beyonder wrecked dimensions as well. Kubik stomped Beyonder as well. And later said they're powers (him & Kosmos/Beyonder) would be destroyed by a Celestial. Three skyfathers that included Odin could do jack to Arishem. So yeah, the Celestials are going to stomp Mordru and his buddies...hard.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Pre Zero Hour Mordru would solo these Celestials with fire balls that can destroy Galaxies.
Who said this was pre zero hour mordru?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Galactus also has only destroyed galaxies in the fight with Tyrant, making it a shared feat to boot.

Would you say that all Galaxy destroyers are the same ? Or yet again, are you suggesting that nothing less than Universal destroyers would be capable of beating the Celestials ? 🙂

He is saying that destroying a galaxy proves nothing against the celestials. Odin has been shown to be able to affect the multiverse in battle and was ineffective against the Celestials.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Galactus has destroyed dimensions against Agamotto; Galactus and Tyrant wasn't his highest feat. Moleculeman and Beyonder wrecked dimensions as well. Kubik stomped Beyonder as well. And later said they're powers (him & Kosmos/Beyonder) would be destroyed by a Celestial. Three skyfathers that included Odin could do jack to Arishem. So yeah, the Celestials are going to stomp Mordru and his buddies...hard.
They are getting their shit pushed in.

Originally posted by Bentley
Damn! Foiled again!

I'm just that awesome.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Galactus has destroyed dimensions against Agamotto; Galactus and Tyrant wasn't his highest feat.

Moleculeman and Beyonder wrecked dimensions as well. Kubik stomped Beyonder as well. And later said they're powers (him & Kosmos/Beyonder) would be destroyed by a Celestial.

Three skyfathers that included Odin could do jack to Arishem. So yeah, the Celestials are going to stomp Mordru and his buddies...hard.

Galactus destroying Universes against Agamotto ? Lie.

Molecule Man & Beyonder destroying Universes while fighting ? Lie.

I really couldn't care less what Odin did or didn't do. I'm just questioning the idiotic logic used in this thread, with the 'well Odin destroyed Galaxies aswell' argument.

Celestials IMO

I favor the Celestials as well.

^^ 👆

Originally posted by Philosophía

I really couldn't care less what Odin did or didn't do. I'm just questioning the idiotic logic used in this thread, with the 'well Odin destroyed Galaxies aswell' argument.

They said that a galaxy destroying blast would work on Celestials. Odin, who can do galaxy destroying blasts, couldn't do anything about the Celestials. Hence, thinking that galaxy destroying blast would beat the Celestials is unfounded, as someone who can destroy them was amped and couldn't beat them.

Where is the logic leap?

Originally posted by Philosophía

Molecule Man & Beyonder destroying Universes while fighting ? Lie.[/B]


You're right,
Post retcon MM and Beyonder while fighting
actually warped reality within realities across the entire Omniverse,
they even blinded a Watcher,
on top of that, had MM killed Beyonder,
the prime Multiverse would've gotten wrecked
from the after-effect according to Kubik, (which leads to all Marvel collapsing)
I think that's what WWK was referring to.

Which imo is > destroying some universes.

Originally posted by Bentley

They said that a galaxy destroying blast would work on Celestials. Odin, who can do galaxy destroying blasts, couldn't do anything about the Celestials. Hence, thinking that galaxy destroying blast would beat the Celestials is unfounded, as someone who can destroy them was amped and couldn't beat them.

Where is the logic leap?


👆

Originally posted by Bentley
They said that a galaxy destroying blast would work on Celestials. Odin, who can do galaxy destroying blasts, couldn't do anything about the Celestials. Hence, thinking that galaxy destroying blast would beat the Celestials is unfounded, as someone who can destroy them was amped and couldn't beat them.

Where is the logic leap?

I've never seen Odin create galaxy destroying blasts, but that's beside the point we are discussing anyway. The logic leap is you are assuming all the people who can bust galaxies are the same, and thus if one of them didn't affect the Celestials (Odin) then the others wouldn't have an effect either (thus why I used the Galactus example).

I could go on to ask people to prove that Odin can destroy galaxies in one blast, to prove that Celestials have withstood galaxy destroying blasts etc. But I'm just not interested in this thread, I only laugh at the logic used.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I've never seen Odin create galaxy destroying blasts, but that's beside the point we are discussing anyway. The logic leap is you are assuming all the people who can bust galaxies are the same, and thus if one of them didn't affect the Celestials (Odin) then the others wouldn't have an effect either (thus why I used the Galactus example).

I could go on to ask people to prove that Odin can destroy galaxies in one blast, to prove that Celestials have withstood galaxy destroying blasts etc. But I'm just not interested in this thread, I only laugh at the logic used.

I didn't say "Mordru can't beat Celestials", I just said that claiming that Galaxy destroying blast would beat the Celestials is unfounded.

Reading is tech biscuits

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm just that awesome.

Galactus destroying Universes against Agamotto ? Lie.

Molecule Man & Beyonder destroying Universes while fighting ? Lie.

I really couldn't care less what Odin did or didn't do. I'm just questioning the idiotic logic used in this thread, with the 'well Odin destroyed Galaxies aswell' argument.

Dude shut the hell up. Lie? Galactus and Agamotto were wrecking dimensions thus why Oshtur and Hoggoth intervened.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5167/galactusagamatto57wn.jpg

Molecule Man & Beyonder were wrecking dimensions in their fight after Kubik had given Kosmos/Beyonder a tour of th universe (the retconning of Beyonder). They also blinded a Watcher as well.

The Celestials should win

Originally posted by Bentley
I didn't say "Mordru can't beat Celestials", I just said that claiming that Galaxy destroying blast would beat the Celestials is unfounded.

Reading is tech biscuits

Galaxies destroying blast. Saying that it can't is unfounded aswell though. Truth is, galaxy busters could range from 2 galaxies to just short of Universal destroyers, so there's no certain way of knowing whether or not Celestials would or would be not defeated by Mordru's attack, even if they have withstood multiple-Galaxy destroying blasts.

It all comes down to a matter of opinion.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Dude shut the hell up. Lie? Galactus and Agamotto were wrecking dimensions thus why Oshtur and Hoggoth intervened.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5167/galactusagamatto57wn.jpg

Yes, lie. You went from claiming that Galactus was destroying Universes/Dimensions in his fight with Agamotto:

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Galactus has destroyed dimensions against Agamotto;

.. to posting a scan that says their fight must be interrupted due to mystic vibrations resulting from their fight affecting other dimensions.

facepalm

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Molecule Man & Beyonder were wrecking dimensions in their fight after Kubik had given Kosmos/Beyonder a tour of th universe (the retconning of Beyonder). They also blinded a Watcher as well.

What's the point of repeating the same thing ? They didn't destroy Universes, thus they are not relevant to the discussion at hand. Period.

Blinding a Watcher ? Nice. That's almost as good as Galactus one-shotting one during Annihilation, while very weakened, with a solar systems destroying blast, while not even focusing on him.