Originally posted by shane8874
Well anyone who Knows DBZ would know that ssj4 gogeta would win.For one ssj4 gogeta is ten times stronger than ss2 vegito and ssj4 vegito is still weeker that goget ssj4, plus in that 30 min ssj4 gogeta would end it in 15 min! It would be fun tho!
Well actually for anyone who knows dbz they will know tht the potora fusion is stronger than the metamoran fusion
ok first i want 2 state the fact that old kai only said that the potara fusion was better he never said y it could have been just becuz of the unlimited time so lets say theyre even also ppl r saying o well 1 know big bang kamehameha ppl they both they r exactly the same 2 mind put in 1 they both know bigbang/final kamehameha but vegito wins becuz of unlimited time n they r both very kocky so that would waste alot of time
Originally posted by shane8874Are you stupid or what, everyone knows that potara fusion is far stronger than the normal fusion. Super saiyan 4 Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance against super saiyan 4 vegito, it should be obvious who would win. If you're going to take part in a thread make sure you know what your talking about.
Well anyone who Knows DBZ would know that ssj4 gogeta would win.For one ssj4 gogeta is ten times stronger than ss2 vegito and ssj4 vegito is still weeker that goget ssj4, plus in that 30 min ssj4 gogeta would end it in 15 min! It would be fun tho!
Actually the two fusions are not far off depending on the subjects.
The only thing that makes the Rings superior to the Dance, besides the time, is that the stronger person doesn't need to lower their power.
If Goku is a 10 and Vegeta is an 9, Gogeta would be a 81 where Vegito would be 90.
If both are equal then the Ring and Dance fusion would be equal in strength. And iirc Goku and Vegeta were equals in the final battle.
Tied in a fight, Vegito winning via timeout.
Originally posted by BloodRainOh come on you heard the old kai say that his potara fusion is much stronger than the metamorian fusion, do you really think that super saiyan gogeta is that much stronger than super saiyan 3 gotenks that he can suddenly equal super vegito and treat super gohan buu like nothing like vegito did.
Actually the two fusions are not far off depending on the subjects.The only thing that makes the Rings superior to the Dance, besides the time, is that the stronger person doesn't need to lower their power.
If Goku is a 10 and Vegeta is an 9, Gogeta would be a 81 where Vegito would be 90.
If both are equal then the Ring and Dance fusion would be equal in strength. And iirc Goku and Vegeta were equals in the final battle.
Tied in a fight, Vegito winning via timeout.
Cba to get the scan, but as I recall he never said anything about it being stronger, just better. Without him stating its a stronger form that 'better' would only attest to the time issue the Dance has.
For the latter part of your post: Did you just suggest that Gogeta, who is made of a the powerful Goku and Vegeta, would be weaker than Gotenks who is made of the low-leveled Goten and Trunks?
Originally posted by BloodRainNo of course not, super saiyan gogeta is far stronger than super saiyan gotenks, I am talking about the difference between super saiyan 3 gotenks and super saiyan 1 gogeta. You have got to admit that despite the significant difference between gogeta and gotenks being two super saiyan transformations higher than gogeta will make them a bit stronger.
Cba to get the scan, but as I recall he never said anything about it being stronger, just better. Without him stating its a stronger form that 'better' would only attest to the time issue the Dance has.For the latter part of your post: Did you just suggest that Gogeta, who is made of a the powerful Goku and Vegeta, would be weaker than Gotenks who is made of the low-leveled Goten and Trunks?
SS1 Gotenks = SS3 Goku [Stated by the author]
SS1 Goten & Trunks < Android 18
If people of their level fused together can equal SS3 Goku in their SS1 form, then someone at Vegeta's strength fused would be well above SS3 Gotenks in their first form.
However a Buu saga Gogeta would /not/ be equal to Vegito from the same saga. This is because Gogeta would be made from SS2 Vegeta and SS2 Goku, while Vegito would be made from SS2 Vegeta and /SS3 Goku/.
This is a GT situation where the characters used are Goku and Vegeta in the final saga where their SS4 states are equal. Both Ring and Dance fusions from the two at equal strength would end up being equal in power.
Originally posted by BloodRainYou're forgetting something, for it to work the way you say then goku and vegeta would have to be transformed for the ring fusion to be stronger than the normal fusion but they were not, because they would be stuck in the super saiyan state unable to power down shortening their life span. Its not their potential to transform that makes the potara fusion stronger, its the power of the earrings that fuses them that makes vegito so much stronger than gogeta, the power that goes into the potara fusion is alot stronger than the power that goes into the normal fusion. Watch the episode that old kai gives goku the earrings on watch-dragonball.com and you will see for yourself.
SS1 Gotenks = SS3 Goku [Stated by the author]SS1 Goten & Trunks < Android 18
If people of their level fused together can equal SS3 Goku in their SS1 form, then someone at Vegeta's strength fused would be well above SS3 Gotenks in their first form.
However a Buu saga Gogeta would /not/ be equal to Vegito from the same saga. This is because Gogeta would be made from SS2 Vegeta and SS2 Goku, while Vegito would be made from SS2 Vegeta and /SS3 Goku/.
This is a GT situation where the characters used are Goku and Vegeta in the final saga where their SS4 states are equal. Both Ring and Dance fusions from the two at equal strength would end up being equal in power.
I'm not sure what the first part of that has anything to do with what I posted or how that can't be countered with them powering up /after/ fusing.
"It's even better than Fusion!" Thats all he says on the matter. 'Better'. Having no time limit, no dance prep and not requiring the stronger of the pair to lower their strength makes it 'better'. Its only stated that the Rings are close to multiplying the individuals powers, nothing said for the Dance. But merely glancing at Gotenks its clear that the Dance must multiply as well.
(Base Gotenks is 8x Base Goku. If the fusion dance is addition the boys would be 4x Goku's power, this isnt true. If multiplication Goten would be slightly weaker than Goku with Trunks at his strength. Thats also not true as they're below 18 and Piccolo, in fact it could be argued from this that the increase from the Dance is above the multiplication stated for the Rings. But it wouldnt make sense that its above it. So leaving it as equal to the Rings is the only thing that makes sense.)
Sorry to end this little discussion but if you would actually think about the difference between potara earring fusion and the fusion dance technique, you would realize that with potara they may fuse regardless of power level difference, (for example SS4 Goku could fuse with krillin) where as the fusion dance their power levels must be identical so if were talking about buu saga goku could only fuse with vegeta as a ss2 meaning gogeta could then only become a ss2 much like the movie fusion reborn. we see gogeta as a super saiyan yet not a ss3 even though goku could become ss3, where as if they had the potara earrings and became vegito they would be immensely more powerfull because goku could unlock the power of ss3 without actually becoming one. now look at ss4 gogeta, their powers must be identical meaning goku could not use his full strength even though he was still more powerfull than vegeta, and if they used potara fusion is everlasting and limitless in terms of their individual power.