Originally posted by VegetSS4
Sorry to end this little discussion but if you would actually think about the difference between potara earring fusion and the fusion dance technique, you would realize that with potara they may fuse regardless of power level difference, (for example SS4 Goku could fuse with krillin) where as the fusion dance their power levels must be identical so if were talking about buu saga goku could only fuse with vegeta as a ss2 meaning gogeta could then only become a ss2 much like the movie fusion reborn. we see gogeta as a super saiyan yet not a ss3 even though goku could become ss3, where as if they had the potara earrings and became vegito they would be immensely more powerfull because goku could unlock the power of ss3 without actually becoming one. now look at ss4 gogeta, their powers must be identical meaning goku could not use his full strength even though he was still more powerfull than vegeta, and if they used potara fusion is everlasting and limitless in terms of their individual power.
So who are you saying is more powerful?
IMO lets talk a bit about SSj3
SSJ3 kid goku is no where the power of SSJ 3 adult Goku, so SSJ3 in GT really gets screwed over. SS4 is cool and all but SSJ3 Buu saga and some of the money is way cooler.
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In the end Vegito will win because the fusion lasts longer.
Since we never see SS4 Gogeta its hard to tell who would be stronger. SS4 Vegito had the power to thrash Omega with all DB absorbed with not problem.
The best way to tell would be to see what power lvl of Janemba was vs. SS Gogeta in the movie, then figure out what omega shenron is and then we could have a clear winner.
Originally posted by Based
Uhh no. It's been stated by the Kais that Potara >>>> dance. Also the potara gives a power boost for rivals which is not stated for the dance.If you want to do a SSJ3 vs a SSJ4 fight then this would be the way to go...
Yea thats what I made that SS3 Goku vs. SS4 Vegita, plus the Gogeta vs Vegito fight could never happen.
Originally posted by Based
Uhh no. It's been stated by the Kais that Potara >>>> dance. Also the potara gives a power boost for rivals which is not stated for the dance.
"It's even better than Fusion!" Thats all he says on the matter. 'Better'. Having no time limit, no dance prep and not requiring the stronger of the pair to lower their strength makes it 'better'. Its only stated that the Rings are close to multiplying the individuals powers, nothing said for the Dance. But merely glancing at Gotenks its clear that the Dance must multiply as well.(Base Gotenks is 8x Base Goku. If the fusion dance is addition the boys would be 4x Goku's power, this isnt true. If multiplication Goten would be slightly weaker than Goku with Trunks at his strength. Thats also not true as they're below 18 and Piccolo, in fact it could be argued from this that the increase from the Dance is above the multiplication stated for the Rings. But it wouldnt make sense that its above it. So leaving it as equal to the Rings is the only thing that makes sense.)
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to GokuElder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.”
Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”
I'd rely on that more than the online scans since those are pretty ass
Anyway, the statement about the Potara's effect being greater (IE the resulting fused being) kind of says the Potara is just stronger
Basically Vegeto wins
No, it's pretty clear the Old Kai is just talking about pure strength, otherwise he'd have mentioned that as the reason at that moment, instead of later on when Goku asks:
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P11.6
Context: Goku asks how long Potara-based fusion lasts
Elder Kaioshin: "The Potara don't have such a weakness. It's eternal! You'll never return to normal again!"
Originally posted by Crimson Dragoon
No, it's pretty clear the Old Kai is just talking about pure strength, otherwise he'd have mentioned that as the reason at that moment, instead of later on when Goku asks:
Good point, its too bad we never got to see a SS4 Gogeta though cause I really like SS4 Vegeto. I really didnt like Gogeta cause he was too full of pride and didn't kill Omega when he had the chance.