Silver surfer/thanos vs takion

Originally posted by Naija boy
Not at all. Thanos was the perfect choice for that precisely because he could take the naked HOTU energies as thanos himself explained. There is nothing that even suggested that he was somehow enhanced by TOAA to be able to take it let alone was it mentioned anywhere. That is just baseless.

Why are people trying to compare HOTU to the godwave in Genesis? Hotu was a powersource there to be taken. The godwave was endangering the Source itself and it was moving towards Takion with only destructive purpose, back to the Source that birthed it.

To compare the two scenarios and use them as a comparison between Thanos and Takion is highly inaccurate. The fact remains (if you read Genesis) Thanos and Surfer can't generate anywhere near the same energy as the godwave.

And as Vlaad stated Hotu was intended to be obtainable by the supreme being of MU.

Lulz at anyone thinking Thanos and surfer r anywhere near Takion s league.

lulz at takion fans

Originally posted by Allankles
Why are people trying to compare HOTU to the godwave in Genesis? Hotu was a powersource there to be taken. The godwave was endangering the Source itself and it was moving towards Takion with only destructive purpose, back to the Source that birthed it.

To compare the two scenarios and use them as a comparison between Thanos and Takion is highly inaccurate. The fact remains (if you read Genesis) Thanos and Surfer can't generate anywhere near the same energy as the godwave.

And as Vlaad stated Hotu was intended to be obtainable by the supreme being of MU.

HOTU was a static energy source but as thanos explained it was indeed extremely destructive to regular human flesh. Thanos explained why he was able to contain HOTU and to claim that TOAA enabled him to accept those enrgies when exactly the opposite of that was mentioned is just ridiculous.

Also the two feats can be compared in some ways. The Godwave was a huge amount of destructive energy that Takion manipulated. HOTU while it was a static energy source was also a huge amount of destructive energy which thanos manipulated/contained.

Originally posted by Naija boy
HOTU was a static energy source but as thanos explained it was indeed extremely destructive to regular human flesh. Thanos explained why he was able to contain HOTU and to claim that TOAA enabled him to accept those enrgies when exactly the opposite of that was mentioned is just ridiculous.

Also the two feats can be compared in some ways. The Godwave was a huge amount of destructive energy that Takion manipulated. HOTU while it was a static energy source was also a huge amount of destructive energy which thanos manipulated/contained.

Originally posted by fangirl101
lulz. The godwave was being manipulated by another. The hotu was just sitting there. Also the godwave was a threat even to the source. I fail to see how the two r even comparable.

Huh? the godwave was being manipulated by another? and that is relevant how?.And oh the HOTU was the supreme energy source in Marvel. Certainly comparable.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Huh? the godwave was being manipulated by another? and that is relevant how?.And oh the HOTU was the supreme energy source in Marvel. Certainly comparable.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Not at all. The HOTU was sitting there waiting to be manipulated. Thanos didn't have to match wills with anyone else or use energy control over anyone elses to attain it. Takion had to fight against the Power of the Godwave as it was being willed thru another who already was in possession.

In the sense that takion had to exhibit a high enough level control over over it in order to stall the person orignialy controlling it, yes they are different. However, that does not elevate one feat above the other. Both still had to manipulate extremely powerful energy. the difference is that Takion wasnt shown as the only one able to manipulate the Godwave while Thanos was in effect the only one shown capable of accepting the HOTU.

Originally posted by Naija boy
In the sense that takion had to exhibit a high enough level control over over it in order to stall the person orignialy controlling it, yes they are different. However, that does not elevate one feat above the other. Both still had to manipulate extremely powerful energy. the difference is that Takion wasnt shown as the only one able to manipulate the Godwave while Thanos was in effect the only one shown capable of accepting the HOTU.

Originally posted by fangirl101
you misinterpret takion's feat. Takion did not manipulate any external enery. He used his own power against the godwave. There is a great diff. Takion has enough power within himself to push againt reality busting power. Niether thanos or surfer can do that.

Erm in that scene Takion specifically said " I can channel and manipulate these forces" Which seems to indicate he was indeed channeling external energy.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Erm in that scene Takion specifically said " I can channel and manipulate these forces" Which seems to indicate he was indeed channeling external energy.

Something else I just noticed, Takion was also protecting an Old God, and Shazam fromt he forces,( hence he is shown to be superior to both) as well as openning a channel for the others to be able to attack. He's doing three uber things at once.

Originally posted by fangirl101
No. Takion channel's the Source's power. He was pushing against The Godwave's power. Or do I need to post another scene where he actually reverses the polarity of the entire source. he really is just beyond Thanos and Surfer no matter how you want to stretch it.

U posting him reversing the polarity of the source or whatever really has no bearings here. Anyways in the incident in question didnt Takion apparently die?

Originally posted by Naija boy
U posting him reversing the polarity of the source or whatever really has no bearings here. Anyways in the incident in question didnt Takion apparently die?

Originally posted by Naija boy
HOTU was a static energy source but as thanos explained it was indeed extremely destructive to regular human flesh. Thanos explained why he was able to contain HOTU and to claim that TOAA enabled him to accept those enrgies when exactly the opposite of that was mentioned is just ridiculous.

Also the two feats can be compared in some ways. The Godwave was a huge amount of destructive energy that Takion manipulated. HOTU while it was a static energy source was also a huge amount of destructive energy which thanos manipulated/contained.

There's no comparison. The godwave was destructive to the point where it was threatening all reality and the Source itself. Takion pushed himself against it in an effort to stall it.

HOTU was intended to be wielded, whether it was static or otherwise it was considerably inert in the way it functioned, in comparison to the godwave in Genesis, which was destroying all reality by its existence.

With this kind of argument someone who hasn't read Genesis would assume that Thanos could have absorbed the godwave in Takion's place. Context is important, there was only one moment at which the godwave could be harnessed, the point of ultimate contraction.

Ares was at the heart of the godwave when it was contracted, thus he attained the power.

Afterwards, the power was being wielded offensively and could not be harnessed. Takion held the wave at bay briefly, but even he was destroyed. Darkseid had prepared for Ares beating him to the punch and froze time&space around him. But even that was a temporary solution.

HOTU was just sitting there, inert, and doing nothing. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. And Takion even holding the wave off briefly is beyond the abilities of these 2. And before some jackass compares the crunch to the godwave, the crunch was also inert and not actively fighting surfer's control. Deadly yes, but not being used actively against him.

Originally posted by Allankles
There's no comparison. The godwave was destructive to the point where it was threatening all reality and the Source itself. Takion pushed himself against it in an effort to stall it.

HOTU was intended to be wielded, whether it was static or otherwise it was considerably [B]inert in the way it functioned, in comparison to the godwave in Genesis, which was destroying all reality by its existence.

With this kind of argument someone who hasn't read Genesis would assume that Thanos could have absorbed the godwave in Takion's place. Context is important, there was only one moment at which the godwave could be harnessed, the point of ultimate contraction. [/B]

Actually now i get that the two feats were different. At first i thought Takion had actually manipulated the energy of the godwave and hence why i compared it to thanos feat but seeing as that was not the case i agree that the two feats arent comparable as they involved two different processes. Not that i have elevated one from the other from a difficulty standpoint mind you.

Hmmm, around 5/5 I'd say. Takion is a beast but Thanos would put up a good fight, SS would be a added bonus and enough to stalemate Takion IMO.