Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That was no ordinary blaster, I do not if you left that out on purpose so that you could spin the entire Henshaw adapting bit, or maybe you forgot, either way, it makes no difference, as Norrin has no specific weakness like Red Solar Radiation to exploit.
It was a laser blaster...nothing special was claimed about it. Henshaw hasn't shown a weakness to red sun either btw. He has shown weakness to certain substances as well....
He isn't immune to tech weapons stealing or blocking his PC either... hell, messing with the EM spectrum f*cks with his powers... (Iron man and Ego are proof of this)
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
To me it seems like you are making out Henshaw seem like Hunter Prey Doomsday or the Fury. Henshaw can’t even adapt to a physical fight with Clark, yet alone adapt to a fight with a ruthless Silver Surfer (He has had a serious attitude change lately, courtesy of Galactus). With his attitude change, he would open up a black hole in Henshaw’s head or teleport Henshaw into a black hole.
Henshaw has both adapted IN fight vs Clark and others...
He's even adapted to energy attacks and make them useless...
Black hole's in peoples heads...interesting considering SS has never done anything remotely close to that. It's just as easy to say use tech to block SS from the PC or just steal his power altogether...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did I misunderstand your statement.I asked this:
[B]He has survived blows from Galactus level beings, planetary destruction, harmlessly survived in black holes.
Parallax > Galactus, He's survived Warworld, Black Holes, atomizing explosions, bloodlusted killing blasts from Guardians....etc.
A worm hole depowered SS recently...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has Henshaw, ever, EVER, survived a blow from a being at Galactus' level or close?
Perhaps you never saw his battle with Parallax? He took a blow up close and laughed off and easily destroyed one of his constructs.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has Henshaw ever, EVER, demonstrated, power sufficient for planetary destruction on a whim?[/B]
When has Henshaw ever tried? He takes them over..not destroys them. When has Surfer created black holes in someones head in mid battle, created red sunlight, kryptonite, etc? See how easy that is?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When has Henshaw ever shown that type of physical strength when he isn’t even a match for Clark physically?
Not seeing your point here considering SS is nowhere near Superman's strength. Hank is. Let me see SS beat Eradicator, Supergirl, Steel, and Superboy at the same time in a physical brawl. BTW, Erads alone has been able to stalemate Supes physically...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you simply avoiding my question, and leaving out context or are you saying that Henshaw has actually done the things I have listed?
Strangely enough, I have a respect thread which has the answer for most of your stuff. Had you checked that out...a lot of this could have been avoided. That and I know SS damn well myself. Apparently better than you do.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If he has, give me a scan or an issue and not some cryptic statement, that says Henshaw, has hurt top tier level beings, when it has does not reflect at the topic at hand at all without any context.
There is a respect thread for that... I should know since I created it...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Silver Surfer, effortlessly handled, Nova Prime, destroyed a planet with a thought, survived blows from Cosmic Entities like Aegis etc., unleashed a blast that span Solar System’s and erased entire Solar System spanning armadas in seconds, handled the power of the Crunch that Galactus by his own admittance could not for an extended period, and you’re telling me he can't sweep Henshaw aside, when Henshaw can't hold his own against Superman in a fist fight?
Nova Prime? Try Eradicator, Supergirl, Connor, and Steel at once without effort.
Aegis? Try Parallax.
Channeled Crunch? Try controlling the source wall.
Why would he destroy an armada when he could easily control them? Like a whole planet full of manhunters?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
On a physical level, can he harm Norrin?
Sure can considering he can one shot guys like Mongul, Eradicator, Superman, Supergirl, and GL's with ease.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He has nothing in his arsenal that can harm Norrin, physically. If he can’t match Superman, he can’t even touch Norrin.
Easily enough I can say, if Norrin can't match Thor, (who's lost to Supes) then Henshaw will destroy him.. ABC logic much?
Norrin was one shotted by Odin, while Henshaw laughed off a blast from a bloodlusted Guardian with no damage. The same guys who were able to physically overpower SBP.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Energy based weapons etc.? Norrin effortlessly survives in black holes etc.
So can Supes and Henshaw. Let me see Surfer survive a blast meant for the anti monitor.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Norrin absorbed an entire Star once, to boost his power. Any energy based attack’s Henshaw throws at him, would be redirected, or harmlessly deflected.
Surfer absorbed a portion of a Star and nearly went insane and lost a massive amount of intelligence. I could easily say the same for Surfers PC by the way. Henshaw can easily, block, deflect, or adapt and use it against Surfer.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What does Henshaw have in his arsenal that can harm Norrin?
A ton. How about you do some research already? You want an ABC spelled out account of everything. If I can read up on both guys, so can you.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I am honestly wondering, as you seem to know a great deal about Henshaw (Not very specific about him as I have always hated him), and from what I gather and have read in all of his Superman appearances etc. he hasn't shown anything to harm Norrin. He can't even beat Clark without some plot or some advantage.
No clue what you have against Henshaw, but it explains a lot. He's one of the most interesting characters out there.
I would also suggest you keep your posts/rambles short. Not all of us have the patience to sort through this much ESPECIALLY when a lot of the questions are repetitive within the same post.
It's best to know about the characters you debate for and against. While it seems like you have a grasp on both, you lack finer details in both characters for an informed decision.
Ah, an old favorite of mine.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Silver Surfer 7/10. Pretty much.
Surfer can generate enough energy to create a black hole. Blackholes are made by supernovas. But then again, he doesn't need to create that kind of energy. Just enough to blow up planets:It is after all, clearly within Surfer's ability:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ah, an old favorite of mine.
Silver Surfer 7/10. Pretty much.
Though not canon, I always found their non-fan voted xover interesting. Henshaw destroyed a planet with no issue which is how SS found him..and let's see what happens when they exchange blasts...
Surfer though not hurt, notes that the 1st blast staggered him.
Henshaw practically laughs at Surfers power cosmic.
Originally posted by Avlon
Though not canon, I always found their non-fan voted xover interesting. Henshaw destroyed a planet with no issue which is how SS found him..and let's see what happens when they exchange blasts...Surfer though not hurt, notes that the 1st blast staggered him.
Henshaw practically laughs at Surfers power cosmic.
your not really using a cross over as evidence are you. And if you were you wouldn't use one in which henshaw does something that he isn't able or doesn't do in the canon. I mean really and if we are talking about crap that that henshaw laughs at which totally rocks him. Well even after Darkseid's omega beam really destroyed his body he pretty much laughed at them too, but that's because he's insane. also it's not like surfer was trying to kill him either since surfer doesn't look for the kill right away.
Originally posted by Avlon
Black hole's in peoples heads...interesting considering SS has never done anything remotely close to that. It's just as easy to say use tech to block SS from the PC or just steal his power altogether...
And considering the last part has happened relativly often to Surfer ..
Originally posted by AvlonThis isn't admissible so why keep posting it?
Though not canon, I always found their non-fan voted xover interesting. Henshaw destroyed a planet with no issue which is how SS found him..and let's see what happens when they exchange blasts...Surfer though not hurt, notes that the 1st blast staggered him.
Henshaw practically laughs at Surfers power cosmic.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Where ya been?
Ah, an old favorite of mine.
Silver Surfer 7/10. Pretty much.
Originally posted by jasofisc
your not really using a cross over as evidence are you. And if you were you wouldn't use one in which henshaw does something that he isn't able or doesn't do in the canon. I mean really and if we are talking about crap that that henshaw laughs at which totally rocks him. Well even after Darkseid's omega beam really destroyed his body he pretty much laughed at them too, but that's because he's insane. also it's not like surfer was trying to kill him either since surfer doesn't look for the kill right away.
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