Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What in the hell have you been smoking? Superman either crushes him with his fist or use his amazing combat speed and reflexes to beat his ass.Surfer stomps him to hell. He can alter all of his energy attacks and transform it into whatever he wants. Goku can only resort to H2H against both of these characters. Hell he needs to go SSJ3 just so he doesn't lose as fast.
I'm not going to debate this but the only thing that I'm going to say is that when superman ever in his life or any other dc character show any kind of combat speed even remotely close to what goku did even in his fight with tien during the regular dragonball series THEN i would say that he's a match for goku. When the day happen when superman or any other dc character stop getting abused by bricks THEN I'll say that its true. Superman aint one shotting goku because goku has taken as much punishment then what superman can dish out which includes being punched through mountain, through the earths crust, punched a thousand time in a second by 100 tonners, etc... and he still was contious and jumped back up ready for more.
I agree, if surfer had any kind of battle speed even comparable to goku he should pull some wins but goku would over whelm him and slap his blasts out of the air or hell, just dodge them. Lets not forget that frieza was punching goku so hard that the shock waves of his punches was felt miles away and it sent bulma flying to the other side of the planet. That sound like a 100 tonner to me and he was only using 1% of his power. Frieza could go to dc and rule if he had to.