Sun-dipped Superman vs Amped Silver Surfer: Pure Brawl

Superman dips in the Sun's core while Surfer amps his own attributes till they both reach close to their peak levels (as demonstrated in comics). Both are blood-lusted and not holding anything back.

They fight on a giant rocky planet.

This is a pure brawl, both physical and energy attacks are allowed. But Surfer is not allowed to manipulate energy or matter to take advantage of Superman's weaknesses to kryptonite or red sunlight.

Who wins?

vs

Supes.

Superman 7/10. The only reason why I usually give SS the wins of Superman is because SS can exploit his weakness which is Red Sunlight. Without it, I don't see SS winning.

Sun-dipped literally operated on PC levels, in addition to not being able to exploit any potential weakness I don't see SS posing any type of threat....and in a pure physical encounter supes would use his superior speed and MA to quickly destroy SS. Supes 10/10.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman 7/10. The only reason why I usually give SS the wins of Superman is because SS can exploit his weakness which is Red Sunlight. Without it, I don't see SS winning.

but know that Surfer can amp to peak state.

Originally posted by Starscream M
read the OP, no exploitation of Superman's weaknesses...this is a pure brawl, no gimmicks.

but know that Surfer can amp to peak state.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's what I said.

Originally posted by Starscream M
oh sorry, I didn't see that you said 'usually'.

Silver Surfer.

Surfer dies.

So Surfer basically has as long as is necessary to reach Unilord fighting levels? If so he should probably win...

Originally posted by darthgoober
So Surfer basically has as long as is necessary to reach Unilord fighting levels? If so he should probably win...

NO.

Originally posted by skygunner41
NO.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So Surfer basically has as long as is necessary to reach Unilord fighting levels? If so he should probably win...

Even if they the strength levels were close, the fact that Superman generally demonstrates some combat acumen (he did beat Kobra without powers- Kobra's beaten Batman before, with nothing but his fists and anger) gives this fight to Superman.

And, anyways, Amped Supes is really just too strong.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So Surfer basically has as long as is necessary to reach Unilord fighting levels? If so he should probably win...

He's not taking Superman at sundipped level no matter how much he amped. He's never demonstrated that kind of power. Show me Surfer doing something on par with Sundipped Superman.

Originally posted by Starscream M
as long as it doesn't take absurdly long for him to amp that high (ie more than a day)

But to be fair, the "on panel" stipulation is what gives it to Surfer in this fight. To my knowledge, standard Supes's longest sundip was only a couple of minutes(unless we count Supes Prime) but Surfer has all day if necessary to hit Unilord levels.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's not taking Superman at sundipped level no matter how much he amped. He's never demonstrated that kind of power. Show me Surfer doing something on par with Sundipped Superman.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's not taking Superman at sundipped level no matter how much he amped. He's never demonstrated that kind of power. Show me Surfer doing something on par with Sundipped Superman.

Originally posted by Starscream M
didn't Surfer take down Tenebrous and Aegis with his cosmic blast...albeit resulting in his own 'almost' death?