Sun-dipped Superman vs Amped Silver Surfer: Pure Brawl

Originally posted by darthgoober
I seriously doubt it would take that long. In that case I say Surfer should probably take it.

But to be fair, the "on panel" stipulation is what gives it to Surfer in this fight. To my knowledge, standard Supes's longest sundip was only a couple of minutes(unless we count Supes Prime) but Surfer has all day if necessary to hit Unilord levels.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I seriously doubt it would take that long. In that case I say Surfer should probably take it.

But to be fair, the "on panel" stipulation is what gives it to Surfer in this fight. To my knowledge, standard Supes's longest sundip was only a couple of minutes(unless we count Supes Prime) but Surfer has all day if necessary to hit Unilord levels.

Wasn't the Unilord thing with outside help and extenuating circumstances? 2nd, Superman did his feats with a few minutes. Imagine having a day or more.

Superman's feat was moving Warworld and tanking Entropy. I have never seen Surfer tank something of that magnitude. Let me put it this way. I would never give Surfer a win over Odin even with amping. But Sundipped Superman? He could do it.

Originally posted by tjcoady
Even if they the strength levels were close, the fact that Superman generally demonstrates some combat acumen (he did beat Kobra without powers- Kobra's beaten Batman before, with nothing but his fists and anger) gives this fight to Superman.

And, anyways, Amped Supes is really just too strong.

Won't work.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wasn't the Unilord thing with outside help and extenuating circumstances? 2nd, Superman did his feats with a few minutes. Imagine having a day or more.

Superman's feat was moving Warworld and tanking Entropy. I have never seen Surfer tank something of that magnitude. Let me put it this way. I would never give Surfer a win over Odin even with amping. But Sundipped Superman? He could do it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
and tanking Entropy.

Crunch? that was manipulating an existing source of energy, not amping his stats with his own power. And that almost killed him.

Goober: What can Surfer do to him that Imperiex Prime and B-13 couldn't?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Where was that stated?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Crunch? that was manipulating an existing source of energy, not amping his stats with his own power. And that almost killed him.

Goober: What can Surfer do to him that Imperiex Prime and B-13 couldn't?

I'm comparing crunch to entropy nub.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wasn't the Unilord thing with outside help and extenuating circumstances? 2nd, Superman did his feats with a few minutes. Imagine having a day or more.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Superman's feat was moving Warworld and tanking Entropy. I have never seen Surfer tank something of that magnitude. Let me put it this way. I would never give Surfer a win over Odin even with amping. But Sundipped Superman? He could do it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
How's Supes going to put Surfer down in this fight, punch him into a bunch of little pieces...

Won't work.

So ur claim is SS would hti unilord levels, possibly IMO I would see supes with a full days sun dipp being equal to his PC self. In that situation with the stipulations stating a pure brawl...Supes handily takes it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So ur claim is SS would hti unilord levels, possibly IMO I would see supes with a full days sun dipp being equal to his PC self. In that situation with the stipulations stating a pure brawl...Supes handily takes it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So ur claim is SS would hti unilord levels, possibly IMO I would see supes with a full days sun dipp being equal to his PC self. In that situation with the stipulations stating a pure brawl...Supes handily takes it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Superman dips in the Sun's core while Surfer amps his own attributes till they both reach close to their peak levels (as demonstrated in comics). Both are blood-lusted and not holding anything back.

They fight on a giant rocky planet.

This is a pure brawl, both physical and energy attacks are allowed. But Surfer is not allowed to manipulate energy or matter to take advantage of Superman's weaknesses to kryptonite or red sunlight.

Who wins?

vs

Originally posted by Starscream M
yep...I made sure to state both get to peak levels demonstrated on-panel to snuff out needless speculation on both sides (ie Surfer's side claiming he can amp to infinite levels and likewise on Superman's side)

Originally posted by Mindset
Read the first post again.

Yeah just saw, well in that case I give Supes the majority.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yeah just saw, well in that case I give Supes the majority.

Yeah, just given the stipulations and such.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No. And Supes doesn't have a day to sundip, his max level shown on panel is the limit for this thread. So he's only sundipped for a couple of minutes regardless of the amount of time Surfer gets to spend amping up to Unilord levels.

And Surfer's was evenly matching the embodiment of an entire reality(or something right along those lines, the arcs kinda confusing).

mindset: The crunch is not comparable to entropy. And it was god damn obvious that B-13 was channeling Imperiex's power, considering it was the power source for Warworld.

Goober: So you want to be hypocritical and make it so they don't get equal amping time? Doesn't matter.

Imperiex Prime was the big freaking bang. A universe killer. B-13 was his rival in power and absorbed him into his version of Warworld. He was throwing Entropy blasts at Superman and using the full power of Warworld to try and stop him from moving it. IT DID NOTHING. 😐

Feats of unilord to even begin comparing him to those 2?

And if need be, I will drag every scan of entropy's power into this thread.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So ur claim is SS would hti unilord levels, possibly IMO I would see supes with a full days sun dipp being equal to his PC self. In that situation with the stipulations stating a pure brawl...Supes handily takes it.

Anyway, sun dipped Superman outputs a lot of energy that can be sapped off him as well...

Stips say no energy manip.

btw, the line of reasoning that if Superman became so powerful after a few minutes of sundipp, he would be uber if given hours or more is false.

for example, take a laptop battery. In two hours I can charge it from no capacity to full charge. But after that point, I could charge it for all eternity and it won't last any longer.

hence, it is pointless to speculate how much more powerful Superman can be given X amount of time in the sun unless we have direct correlating evidence to suggest such inference can be made.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
mindset: The crunch is not comparable to entropy.