^ As you say, Sodam Yat isn't involved, but interesting point on the application of common knowledge. Assuming that Daxamites are aware of their weakness to lead, I'm not sure that would necessarily apply in a KMC vs. fight. Sodam Yat doesn't seem to identify Daxam as his homeworld since he hates Daxam's culture. Indeed, he operates throughout different sectors and has no home, save for Oa. In a similar manner, Silver Surfer operates throughout the universe and mostly on Earth, despite Zenn-La having historically been his "homeworld."
But in most threads, we measure basic knowledge of Surfer on what the Earth population knows of him and to a certain extent, what the universe's population knows of him since he is so well-known as a Herald of Galactus. We don't really use what Zenn La knows of Surfer for the common knowledge rule. Similarly, I don't think using Daxam planet's knowledge is appropriate when applying the common knowledge rule here. To illustrate my point, consider this: Everybody on Zenn-La knew that Norrin Radd sacrificed himself to save the planet when Galactus came. But do Superman or Darkseid or Majestic know that Surfer's real name is Norrin Radd per the common knowledge rule?
I mean, do characters like Ronan or Super-Skrull even know Surfer's true name? To my understanding, common knowledge helps put characters from other companies on a more even basis for purposes of an intercompany fight. But the way Daxam and Zenn-La are Sodam's and Surfer's homeworlds respectively, I don't think using those homeworlds as a basis for common knowledge serves the spirit of the rule. Thoughts?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
But the way Daxam and Zenn-La are Sodam's and Surfer's homeworlds respectively, I don't think using those homeworlds as a basis for common knowledge serves the spirit of the rule. Thoughts?
What the majority of the GLC knows about Sodam should come into play under the common knowledge rule, since that's where he mostly is, not Daxam. Likewise, the Earth should be the 'knowledge bar' so to speak for measuring what opponents know about Surfer per common knowledge, not Zenn-La.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ As you say, Sodam Yat isn't involved, but interesting point on the application of common knowledge. Assuming that Daxamites are aware of their weakness to lead, I'm not sure that would necessarily apply in a KMC vs. fight. Sodam Yat doesn't seem to identify Daxam as his home world since he hates Daxam's culture. Indeed, he operates throughout different sectors and has no home, save for Oa. In a similar manner, Silver Surfer operates throughout the universe and mostly on Earth, despite Zenn-La having historically been his "home world."But in most threads, we measure basic knowledge of Surfer on what the Earth population knows of him and to a certain extent, what the universe's population knows of him since he is so well-known as a Herald of Galactus. We don't really use what Zenn La knows of Surfer for the common knowledge rule. Similarly, I don't think using Daxam planet's knowledge is appropriate when applying the common knowledge rule here. To illustrate my point, consider this: Everybody on Zenn-La knew that Norrin Radd sacrificed himself to save the planet when Galactus came. But do Superman or Darkseid or Majestic know that Surfer's real name is Norrin Radd per the common knowledge rule?
I mean, do characters like Ronan or Super-Skrull even know Surfer's true name? To my understanding, common knowledge helps put characters from other companies on a more even basis for purposes of an intercompany fight. But the way Daxam and Zenn-La are Sodam's and Surfer's homeworlds respectively, I don't think using those homeworlds as a basis for common knowledge serves the spirit of the rule. Thoughts?
But limiting basic knowledge to that gained on Earth or by Earth's heroes really just puts characters who're from Earth at a disadvantage to Alien characters since the Alien and the Earthling get the exact same info before the match and it's all about the Earthling.
The Daxam people are very isolated. They don't know about their weakness. They haven't shown any worry. In Superman, those 3, or 4 Daxan that come to attack Superman, and Mon-El(mostly Mon-El) didn't know about their weakness. And they were like some high order crap.
The only ones that know about the weakness are the one who haven't been isolated.
^ That was my impression as well. Even though it's ludicrous that Daxamites have never come in contact with a simple element that is extremely prevalent throughout the universe... but hey, it's comics.
Originally posted by darthgooberMaybe it would be appropriate to interpret the rule as follows: It's not what Zenn La's population knows that informs an opponent of Surfer's capabilities. It's what his opponent's homeworld in a hypothetical merged homeworld knows of Surfer that informs him of Surfer's capabilities. So, for instance, Huntress who operates on Earth would know what Earthlings generally know of Surfer. But Sodam Yat, as a special member of the GLC who operates throughout the universe, would know what people throughout the universe generally know of Surfer. In this way, Huntress wouldn't be privy to the general knowledge that star-spanning characters would have as it wouldn't make sense to imbue her with such information. I dunno.
I've always interpreted the rule as applying across the board but I'm totally open to case specific exceptions. If it can be argued that Daxam shouldn't qualify as Yat's home world then so be it, I'll let someone else argue that cause I'm not too familiar with Yat.But limiting basic knowledge to that gained on Earth or by Earth's heroes really just puts characters who're from Earth at a disadvantage to Alien characters since the Alien and the Earthling get the exact same info before the match and it's all about the Earthling.