Originally posted by Starscream M
but that's power...not durabilityI do not dispute that Galactus is far, far, far more powerful than Juggernaut
There are many beings more powerful than Juggernaut
But they are not more durable...
Originally posted by Starscream MJuggernaut is the embodiment of physical invincibility
Originally posted by Starscream Mwhen has full power Juggernaut ever been physically injured (even to the slightest degree)?
Juggs' form is tough don't get me wrong,
but come on now, he's powered by Cytto,
who isn't all that himself.
So Juggs' bod tougher than big G?
... heck no!
Originally posted by Starscream Mhow do you rectify that with Juggernaut not having a scratch from being hit by a godblast?
either
a) Nimrod's attacks are more powerful than the godblast
or
b) it was PIS
See, we can both add that excuse for depictions we don't like to see.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You're on.
"The first time that the two battled was in The Incredible Hulk #172
where the Hulk won,
but only because the X-men attacked Juggernaut and gave Hulk the advantage.
They again fought in Avengers:West Coast #64
where the Hulk and some random kid with superpowers attack the Juggernaut
and beat him mostly off panel
with the end of the fight being the boy shooting a beam at the Juggernaut.
In the The Incredible Hulk#402 the Juggernaut attacked the Hulk in street cloaths
in order to suprise him into letting down his gaurd
and gained the upper hand early in the fight.
Some would say that’s cheating.
In the The Incredible Hulk #457 the Juggernaut again battled with Hulk
and was again defeated.
The reason being is Hulk was given power by Apocalypse
and became one of the riders.
Hulk used Celestial weapons and the battle was VERY one sided (Hulk won)"
Hulk #172: wasn't a victory for the Hulk. Hulk threw Juggernaut into the side of a mountain. Juggernaut got up to continue the fight but the X-Men showed up out of no where and mind-raped him.
I don't remember much of the Avengers WC fight
Hulk #402: Yes, he used sneak tactics. He even says so in a later issue, it was a trick another character taught. Hulk still got beat to within an inch of his life.
Hulk #457: Was against an amped heroes reborn Hulk. Amped with nexus energy and the Celestial enhancements. Apocalypse confirms this after wards by saying it was the Celestial enhancements that enabled the Hulk to do what he did.
Most recent, X-Men/WWH #3: After regaining his full power Juggernaut proceeds to physically dominate arguably the strongest Hulk to date. Hulk side-steps Juggernaut sending him running, Hulk escapes. Kind of reminds you of their first meeting doesn't it, only a little less dramatic.
Hulk has only ever managed to BFR Juggernaut or beat him via psychic backlash.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Hulk #172: wasn't a victory for the Hulk. Hulk threw Juggernaut into the side of a mountain. Juggernaut got up to continue the fight but the X-Men showed up out of no where and mind-raped him.
Hulk #402: Yes, he used sneak tactics. He even says so in a later issue, it was a trick another character taught. Hulk still got beat to within an inch of his life.
Hulk #457: Was against an amped heroes reborn Hulk. Amped with nexus energy and the Celestial enhancements. Apocalypse confirms this after wards by saying it was the Celestial enhancements that enabled the Hulk to do what he did.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I don't remember much of the Avengers WC fight.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Most recent, X-Men/WWH #3: After regaining his full power Juggernaut proceeds to physically dominate arguably the strongest Hulk to date. Hulk side-steps Juggernaut sending him running, Hulk escapes. Kind of reminds you of their first meeting doesn't it, only a little less dramatic.
I don't know where you got that from good friend,
but Juugs never came close to dominating WWK,
and yes, Juggs was beaten with Hulk brains.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Hulk has only ever managed to BFR Juggernaut
or beat him via psychic backlash.
Originally posted by Starscream M
since you can't be bothered to offer any evidence in support of your argument, I'll provide some:Here's current Galactus getting harmed by a blast by Thanos (weaker than a godblast):
http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus14jn.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus27ey.jpg
What are you talking about?
Galactus wasn't harmed at all. Thanos said all he did was simply piss him off.
Either way, that isn't that recent, and Thanos would "what the **** pawn!" Juggernaut so it's pointless...
Dude, Juggernaut has had his eye carved out by Shatterstar's sword, has been burnt to a skeleton by D'Spayre (Impressive showing of Juggernaut's resistance or even immunity to feeling pain and his healing factor)...
Galactus, has fought Agamatto in his realm, and Agamatto is a mystical being who would make Juggernaut collapse by looking at him, Galactus has fought the In-Betweener who would pop the Juggernaut like a zit. He has effortlessly survived attacks that destroyed entire Star Systems....
Each and every time those fight's happen, it shows Galactus' durability as what those opponent's unleash in terms of power that barely does anything to Galactus would destroy Juggernaut.
You are showing you're ignorance. Every time he fights a cosmic level entity that would simply destroy Juggernaut with ease etc. Galactus shows his superior durability...
How is this even an argument.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Hulk was dominating the fight in WWH, when you have your lip busted, shooting out blood, and have your face stomped into the dirt, without actually hurting your opponent, you are being dominated.It was only after WWH side-stepped Juggernaut, who forgot he could stop running, that the fight ended.
I think you mean Juggernaut was dominating that fight (I personally wouldn't say dominate but he was getting the upper hand in my opinion).
Juggernaut made Hulk's face eat pavement with his boot.
Juggernaut never got so much as a scratch while WWH was spewing blood here and there.
