Religulous

Started by Symmetric Chaos6 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no such thing.

You're confusing theory and practice.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're confusing theory and practice.

There is no theory or practice of atheism. 😕

Think of it as a koan and meditate on it. I'm too tired to explain the idea of metaphors to you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no theory or practice of atheism. 😕

You've been keeping quiet that the final stage of Buddhahood (the penultimate life) is divine, not humanistic at all!

[edit] Surely that means then, that if you think Jesus was a buddha or "woke up" or was "one who knows" however you prefer to phrase it hten you would accept he was also divine?

The Theory is = no god.
The Practice is = Not believing

Originally posted by Bicnarok
The Theory is = no god.
The Practice is = Not believing

No the theory is
Atheism: there is no proof for the idea of God ergo I do not believe, however I am against dogmatism and controlling peoples ideas so they are free to believe what they like.

The practice of some Atheism is:
The is no proof that there is a God, therefore he DOES NOT exist. Therefore you MUST NOT believe.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
You've been keeping quiet that the final stage of Buddhahood (the penultimate life) is divine, not humanistic at all!

[edit] Surely that means then, that if you think Jesus was a buddha or "woke up" or was "one who knows" however you prefer to phrase it hten you would accept he was also divine?

As divine as the potential that we all have. The problem is the word divine has been used to kill a lot of people in the past.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
No the theory is
Atheism: there is no proof for the idea of God ergo I do not believe, however I am against dogmatism and controlling peoples ideas so they are free to believe what they like.

The practice of some Atheism is:
The is no proof that there is a God, therefore he DOES NOT exist. Therefore you MUST NOT believe.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
The Theory is = no god.
The Practice is = Not believing

There is nothing that organizes atheism, therefore, there are as many "atheist theory" as there are people.

You have, on one side, the people who are activist atheist, and on the other side, you have people who simple never give the idea of a god any thought.

A practice also suggest an organization, and there is no organization among atheists.

Then there are people like myself: I believe that the Christian god is man made. However, I believe that the universe is a living being, that I jokingly call God. It is a silly idea to worship God, because God does not need, at all. There are people who consider me to be an atheist. Am I?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is nothing that organizes atheism

In theory. Sadly in reality there are plenty of atheists who are quite organized about what they think and just as dogmatic as the people they complain about.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In theory. Sadly in reality there are plenty of atheists who are quite organized about what they think and just as dogmatic as the people they complain about.

They are a minority, however, given time, you maybe right.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is nothing that organizes atheism, therefore, there are as many "atheist theory" as there are people.

There are atheist organizations.

And quite rightly so, really.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
As divine as the potential that we all have. The problem is the word divine has been used to kill a lot of people in the past.

Buddhahood transcends the very nature of divinity though...its super-godness... I suspect it would mean gods as understood in the Hindu traditions)

So really, you are a theist and you believe in the divine!

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Buddhahood transcends the very nature of divinity though...its super-godness... I suspect it would mean gods as understood in the Hindu traditions)

So really, you are a theist and you believe in the divine!

I am a theist. I have never claimed to be an atheist. BTW I have always said that being an active atheist is just as silly as worshiping a god.

I simply don't believe in the bible, or the Christian god.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am a theist. I have never claimed to be an atheist. BTW I have always said that being an active atheist is just as silly as worshiping a god.

I simply don't believe in the bible, or the Christian god.

I thought you said Jesus was a Buddha? ergo you recognise he was divine?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
I thought you said Jesus was a Buddha? ergo you recognise he was divine?

Actually, I said Jesus was a Bodhisattva. We all have a Buddha nature, and if you consider Buddhahood to be divine, then we are all divine at some point.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Actually, I said Jesus was a Bodhisattva. We all have a Buddha nature, and if you consider Buddhahood to be divine, then we are all divine at some point.

Buddhahood is beyond divine, the penultimate life prior to buddhahood is the divine one...right?

ummm, so, much like christians, can we stop making sweeping generalizations about what "atheists" believe or do not believe?

I know many atheists who love dogma, maybe just not the religious kind.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Buddhahood is beyond divine, the penultimate life prior to buddhahood is the divine one...right?

I don't think that divine is the correct word to us. Divine has the connotation of separation, and Buddhahood is not separate.

http://buddhistlinks.org/Buddhahood.htm

Originally posted by inimalist
ummm, so, much like christians, can we stop making sweeping generalizations about what "atheists" believe or do not believe?