Religulous

Originally posted by Beliver
Sigh....

I wonder what path of destruction you'd lead a nation down with your irrational thoughts.

Or you with yours.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or you with yours.

I wont be telling people that the Magic Beady man in the clouds told me to do stuff.

Originally posted by Beliver
I wont be telling people that the Magic Beady man in the clouds told me to do stuff.

Buddha had the same problem. However, he developed expedient means to bring people out of the darkness of delusion. Only then could he teach his higher teachings.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Buddha had the same problem. However, he developed expedient means to bring people out of the darkness of delusion. Only then could he teach his higher teachings.

But at its simplist core, wasnt Buddha just a man teaching people how to act to each other?

Please forgive my lack of knowledge of Buddhism but I take it unlike most religions there is no "ours is the right one and if you believe otherwise bad things will happen to you" clause?

I'd much rather hear:

"Be nice to each other"

than...

"Be nice to each other or my dad will kick the crap out of you"

Originally posted by Beliver
But at its simplist core, wasnt Buddha just a man teaching people how to act to each other?

Please forgive my lack of knowledge of Buddhism but I take it unlike most religions there is no "ours is the right one and if you believe otherwise bad things will happen to you" clause?

I'd much rather hear:

"Be nice to each other"

than...

"Be nice to each other or my dad will kick the crap out of you"

And "Be nice to each other" is the higher teachings of Buddha. However, no one around him could understand that. They were too delusional. Consider Jesus; his teachings were "Be nice to each other" and all he got for it was a cross.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And "Be nice to each other" is the higher teachings of Buddha. However, no one around him could understand that. They were too delusional. Consider Jesus; his teachings were "Be nice to each other" and all he got for it was a cross.

So would Jesus of been okay if he just stuck to walking around saying "be nice to each other" instead of spouting off that he was the son of a deity?

Originally posted by Beliver
So would Jesus of been okay if he just stuck to walking around saying "be nice to each other" instead of spouting off that he was the son of a deity?

They would have stoned him right away.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They would have stoned him right away.

Really?

I would of thought a kicking at most. I guessed telling everyone that unless they did what he said his magic daddy is the clouds will get them would of pissed off more people.

Originally posted by Beliver
Really?

I would of thought a kicking at most. I guessed telling everyone that unless they did what he said his magic daddy is the clouds will get them would of pissed off more people.

Try it yourself. At best everyone will laugh at you; at worse, they will bust your head open.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Try it yourself. At best everyone will laugh at you; at worse, they will bust your head open.

But the differnce is that these are enlightened times compared to those in the bible.

Originally posted by Beliver
But the differnce is that these are enlightened times compared to those in the bible.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

Yet no-one claims that they have caused a mass of water to part on command (successfully and without the aid of pharmacuticals).

Originally posted by Beliver
Yet no-one claims that they have caused a mass of water to part on command (successfully and without the aid of pharmacuticals).

However, a few years back, a Hindu god was drinking milk.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, a few years back, a Hindu god was drinking milk.

Eh?

A Hindu deity (in physical form) pitched up and ordered a glass of milk?

Originally posted by Beliver
Eh?

A Hindu deity (in physical form) pitched up and ordered a glass of milk?

Google it. 😉

The 1995 incident:

"Seeking to explain the phenomenon, scientists from India's Ministry of Science and Technology travelled to a temple in New Delhi and made an offering of milk containing a food colouring. As the level of liquid in the spoon dropped, it became obvious that after the milk disappeared from the spoon, it coated the statue beneath where the spoon was placed. With this result, the scientists offered capillary action as an explanation; the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue."

Or the 2006 one?

Originally posted by Beliver
The 1995 incident:

"Seeking to explain the phenomenon, scientists from India's Ministry of Science and Technology travelled to a temple in New Delhi and made an offering of milk containing a food colouring. As the level of liquid in the spoon dropped, it became obvious that after the milk disappeared from the spoon, it coated the statue beneath where the spoon was placed. With this result, the scientists offered capillary action as an explanation; the surface tension of the milk was pulling the liquid up and out of the spoon, before gravity caused it to run down the front of the statue."

Or the 2006 one?

I never said Miracles are real outside of the mind.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I never said Miracles are real outside of the mind.

But aren't these miracles/delusions just another symptom of the irrational.

If anything Religion should be the guide not the answer.

Originally posted by Beliver
But aren't these miracles/delusions just another symptom of the irrational.

If anything Religion should be the guide not the answer.

The rational is not free from the possibility of delusion.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The rational is not free from the possibility of delusion.

But with the rational the delusional can be isolated and ignored.

Its the irrational that act upon the delusion.

Havent heard of many MIT scholars shaving all their hair off and claiming to be the next coming of the Messiah. Although it always seems to be the leaders of nations that seem to have the ear of God.