Originally posted by Naija boy
Huh? what r u talking about? He has taken attacks that have destroyed his board numerous times without being damaged.
can you show me these attacks, and I want to see the attacks hitting surfer and the board at the same time while the board is getting destroyed because to my knowledge surfers board was in good condition when his physical body was getting destroyed by uni lord.
Originally posted by carver9
He did plenty, took over earth and noone couldnt do anything about it :
Plenty could've done something about it, they just didn't care. Doom could've took the time to plan something out and beat him. Hasn't he shut down the X-Gene before? Also Surfer won because of two reasons.
1. He is more powerful than Cable and he would've won regardless.
2. Cable knew his powers ran out and basically gave up and welcomed the attack from Surfer.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Plenty could've done something about it, they just didn't care. Doom could've took the time to plan something out and beat him. Hasn't he shut down the X-Gene before? Also Surfer won because of two reasons.1. He is more powerful than Cable and he would've won regardless.
2. Cable knew his powers ran out and basically gave up and welcomed the attack from Surfer.
And where did you get that surfer was more powerful then Cable during there fight because I seen a stalemate.
Originally posted by carver9
He did plenty, took over earth and noone couldnt do anything about it and again, I agree, surfer could beat the xmen but this was a PREPPED xmen that cable dealt with and they were useless.God like cable is above top tier and surfer ONLY won that due to him exploiting the xgene, without that we dont know what would have happened. By the way, didnt surfer sneak attack cable. 😕
Cable showed good telepathy in that arc but saying he took over earth is a huge exxageration. Those "prepped" Xmen that cable faced would be destroyed by surfer.
Surfer was holding back immensely in that arc. he only blasted cable once and that was the end of it. IF he had decided to really pour on the power he would have blasted cable into pieces from the beginning of the fight. His durability is far above cables, His matter manip is also far above cables. He is far faster than cable and he even has stronger shields than cable. He has impresssive telepathy of his own and huge mental resistance so trying mind attacks would just be a waste of his own time. And oh surfer didnt "sneak attack" cable. Cable sensed surfers presence while surfer was coming.
Originally posted by carver9
And where did you get that surfer was more powerful then Cable during there fight because I seen a stalemate.
His versatility for one. Do you really think SS was going all out in that battle? There was no need for him to use 100% of his powers seeing as he had no killer intentions towards Cable and vice versa, the fact that in the end Cable is a good guy. SS was only there to stop him.
Originally posted by carver9
can you show me these attacks, and I want to see the attacks hitting surfer and the board at the same time while the board is getting destroyed because to my knowledge surfers board was in good condition when his physical body was getting destroyed by uni lord.
I really should be writin a research paper now so i dont have time to upload scans but there is the incident in the Revelations arc where his board was entirely destroyed and surfers skin wasnt even cracked from the same blast. Then there is the incident against Firelord where he took the same blast that destroyed his board without any damage to himself.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
His versatility for one. Do you really think SS was going all out in that battle? There was no need for him to use 100% of his powers seeing as he had no killer intentions towards Cable and vice versa, the fact that in the end Cable is a good guy. SS was only there to stop him.
So where was it stated that he was holding back because blitzing a man, slamming him through buildings doesnt look like a hold back to me.
Originally posted by carver9
can you show me these attacks, and I want to see the attacks hitting surfer and the board at the same time while the board is getting destroyed because to my knowledge surfers board was in good condition when his physical body was getting destroyed by uni lord.
Weren't numerous examples listed by other posters on the first page and second of this same thread?
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Originally posted by carver9
So where was it stated that he was holding back because blitzing a man, slamming him through buildings doesnt look like a hold back to me.
For heavens sake He only blasted cable once in the whole fight( that blast looked like just a mild eye blast even) and thats what took him out. An all out surfer would have come in guns blazing and would have simply blasted cable into smitherines from the get go.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
isnt Surfer suppose to be made of the same stuff as his board? 🤨
(only difference being Surfers covered by thin layer of the silver stuff wheras the board is entirely made of it)
Like stated before, most of the attacks that have destroyed the board or harmed shouldn't have but since he can remake it, most consider it not a big whoop.
He has taken it into the middle of a black hole, into the Sun, used it while unleashing the power to annihilate Solar System spanning armadas etc.
That thing is pretty damn durable but it's destroyed on different occasions because Norrin can easily remake it.
I don't think Norrin and the board are made of the same exact substance.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Cable showed good telepathy in that arc but saying he took over earth is a huge exxageration. Those "prepped" Xmen that cable faced would be destroyed by surfer.Surfer was holding back immensely in that arc. he only blasted cable once and that was the end of it. IF he had decided to really pour on the power he would have blasted cable into pieces from the beginning of the fight. His durability is far above cables, His matter manip is also far above cables. He is far faster than cable and he even has stronger shields than cable. He has impresssive telepathy of his own and huge mental resistance so trying mind attacks would just be a waste of his own time. And oh surfer didnt "sneak attack" cable. Cable sensed surfers presence while surfer was coming.
I agree, surfer is more durable then a cable that isnt using his force field. With the force fields up, they're equals.
I agree with surfer being physically stronger then cable.
How do we know if surfers matter mani is above cable, again both appeared to be equals in that fight.
Telepathy, now you're being ridiculous, cable>>surfers.
Telekenisis, being ridiculous again, cable>>surfers.
Yeah, cable did sense him but it was kind of too late to do anything against a SURFER that is coming at you at full speed.
Originally posted by carver9
So where was it stated that he was holding back because blitzing a man, slamming him through buildings doesnt look like a hold back to me.
You just proved yourself wrong.
Norrin slamming someone into buildings etc. is child's play. He can slam someone into planet's and through them without any hindrance and with ease.
Originally posted by Naija boy
For heavens sake He only blasted cable once in the whole fight( that blast looked like just a mild eye blast even) and thats what took him out. An all out surfer would have come in guns blazing and would have simply blasted cable into smitherines from the get go.
If surfer was holding back, cable was holding back because cable could have easily hit surfer with the same attack that he hit surfers board with and that would have taken a chunk out of him.
Surfers and cable battle was nothing more then a tussle, both having the ability to do more but both just bull rushing each other, unless you think that the only thing cable could/can do is punch and kick. 😕
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You just proved yourself wrong.Norrin slamming someone into buildings etc. is child's play. He can slam someone into planet's and through them without any hindrance and with ease.
I agree but he didnt know the extent of cables durability and if someone is holding back, I'm guessing that when your holding back, you're not trying to kill your opponent.
Originally posted by carver9
If surfer was holding back, cable was holding back because cable could have easily hit surfer with the same attack that he hit surfers board with and that would have taken a chunk out of him.Surfers and cable battle was nothing more then a tussle, both having the ability to do more but both just bull rushing each other, unless you think that the only thing cable could/can do is punch and kick. 😕
Why do you continue to ignore valid points brought up from the opposition?
Naija and others have already stated that attacks that have broken his board have had no effect on him at all so there is no way you can factually say that it would've hurt Radd.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, surfer is more durable then a cable that isnt using his force field. With the force fields up, they're equals.I agree with surfer being physically stronger then cable.
How do we know if surfers matter mani is above cable, again both appeared to be equals in that fight.
Telepathy, now you're being ridiculous, cable>>surfers.
Telekenisis, being ridiculous again, cable>>surfers.
Yeah, cable did sense him but it was kind of too late to do anything against a SURFER that is coming at you at full speed.
What have cables forcefields resisted? When i see cable fight in a blachole for a prolonged period with his forcefields on then we may begin to compare them
Appeared to be equals in that fight? Surfer hardly did any matter manip on cable at all. Show me cable transmuting ANYTHING then we may begin to call him in the same sentence as surfer matter manip wise. Then show me him evolving an entire planet before he can ever be clost to surfers level
I never claimed telepathy that surfer was greater than cable. What i said was that with surfers impressive telepathy on his own added to his uber mental resistance telepathy willl be useless in this fight
And what are u talking about in the last part? i didnt even compare there telekinesis. However surfers matter manip is just on another level and easily trumps cables teleikinesis powers.
Cable sensed him and was unable to react. He was even able to make a full statement before surfer arrived. Surfer wasnt going anywhere near full speed if not cable would have died on impact before he even knew what hit him.