Sort of off topic, but in an old What-If comic there was a scene where Juggs (without armor) and some other X-Men were attacked by mutant terrorists. Juggs said something like "you won't kill me". One of the female mutant terrorists grabbed Marko and said something like "don't talk talk to me about death, I am death" and touched him with her hand claiming it would kill him.
I think Cain was screaming but I don't think you really saw what happened afterwards. It's pretty obscure but I was wondering if anyone knew who that mutant character actually was?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
hard to understand? no. completely ridiculous? absolutely.but my woman's intuition is tingling, and its telling me your a troll so im done here
I don't think he's a troll.
But he is wrong.
There are plenty of beings more powerful than Cyttorak. If one of those kills Cain Marko, he's dead, and the big C in the sky can't do shit to bring him back.
How does that not make sense?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Yes.Is that hard to understand?
I think the way to look at SoK's 'bullets' is as total and utter life-sterilisers. That is why, for instance, they can kill god and the devil, but cannot kill something that is already dead.
Anyways, that is obvious for everyone and there is no debate on that.
The issue is if SoK can kill Marko, when Cyttorak is still alive and channeling power/life/etc to Marko?
The answer is ....yes.
Why?
Well, again going back to the beginning ....the 'bullets' are not just killers, they are life sterilizers.
You get hit with one of them, you are dead ...and you remain dead. End of story.
This is why even truly omnipotent entities (such as comic god) got killed .....not injured, not shunted to another dimension ....killed! (Note: Cyttorak is not omnipotent ...he is 'merely' exceedingly powerful. It is like Adamantium ...it is not unbreakable, what it is is almost unbreakable. That is a BIG difference. Going back to Cyttorak, he is immensely potent, but his powers do have limits, and anything greater than those limits can not only overpower Cyttorak's avatars, but also Cyttorak himself).
Anyways, back on SoK, his guns (which are basically the sword of the Death Angel turned into pistols) are life-sterilizers ....if you have life in you, no matter how 'high and mighty' that life may be (e.g. god), you WILL die. And not just die, but remain dead.
If SoK shot Cain, what would occur is that Cyttorak would immediately discover that his connection to Cain is no more, simply because any link would have been instantly shattered.
It is similar to what happened when the spectre killed the Lord of Chaos and the Lord of Order (who are basically at the same level in DC as Cyttorak is in Marvel ....just arguably less powerful than Cyttorak is since it seems in DC not all the Lords of Chaos and Order are at the same level, for instance, it is clearly stipulated that Nabu was the most powerful of the Lords....it is just that people make Cyttorak appear absolutely powerful and omnipotent, when he is just insanely powerful ....just like adamantium, there is a difference between unbreakable and almost unbreakable), and the connection they had with their avatars Hawk and Dove (who were empowered, just as Cain is) immediately died ....only that it would not be working on the reverse.
Basically, Cain's life signature would simply be extinguished ....being shot with the 'guns' would strip away his soul essence, and UNLESS CYTTORAK CAN RECREATE SOULS Cain Marko would be, and remain, DEAD.
In a way, the 'guns' would be like a more absolute version of Darkseid's (when he was not a jobber) Omega sanction effect, when the beams could do a lot of effects (from teleport entire worlds, to instantly killing any and everything ....well, before those beams could be deflected by heat vision from Kryptonians, bracelets from Amazonians, and unstoppable killing machines called Doomsday).
If Cain got shot by SoK, he would remain dead, and nothing Cyttorak could do would bring him back since the connection would also be dead, and the life signature would not longer exist.
To bring him back Cyttorak would have to be able to create souls, and establish connections to life that god himself was unable to.
sainnt of killers wins,bullet pierces armor and cain dies, and SOK could probably kill cytorrak, and i can't think of anyone aside from dead people ,who would not be killed, maybe some high level dead characters like 1970's marvel dracula might be able to beat him,wolverine dead, superman dead, batman dead,
zombie elvis might beat him
Originally posted by tjcoady
I don't think he's a troll.But he is wrong.
There are plenty of beings more powerful than Cyttorak. If one of those kills Cain Marko, he's dead, and the big C in the sky can't do shit to bring him back.
How does that not make sense?
The concept Oblivion killed Juggernaut once.
Yet, he's still alive for all to see.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
lol fail, thor fighting like he should could cut off cains connection to cytorrak and kill him
I'm beginning to question more than your women's intuition. A. He didn't cut Cain off from Cyttorak, he nullified his forcefield and B. He didn't kill him, he couldn't even take him off his feet.
and the first answer is debatable since preacherverse goes by different rules the could be seen as equals or atleast on the living tribunals level
A God that can be killed by a gun isn't supreme.