PEAK HUMAN - MU vs DC

Who's universe allows their peak humans to do the most close to and/or superhuman feats?

Hopefully we get a wide range, might be a thread to reference to when debating MA battles especially. Maybe. 😉

Also tempted to exclude Val (KK) from the topic, afterall knowledge up to and including century 31 is obviously advantageous to the human mind and body. But i suppose we could allow it unless it's totally undeniable that Val is the Primo peak human.

So, MU or DC?

marvel imo, they just have more street level threats than dc and as such more instances where their characters go against villains they really shouldn't

I would have to say DC. Just looking at the Bat Family and all the world class martial artists that are completely human in every sense of the word.

But its close, cause I maybe overlooking a few people here and there. Who knows. I mean for marvel look at Bullseye. With the stuff he pulls off he should have like superstrength, or some super power. The list goes on.

marvel i think, cause you have iron fist and his chi amp. hell ppl who arent peak can give DC peak human a run for their money like daredevil

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
marvel i think, cause you have iron fist and his chi amp. hell ppl who arent peak can give DC peak human a run for their money like daredevil

I do not know if I even consider Iron Fist peak human

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
I do not know if I even consider Iron Fist peak human

he's not unless he amps up but that should tell you something when non peak humans can do that type of thing.

the chi power:

elektra
ironfist
shang chi
daredevil

their chi is strong enough to compete against peak humans like cap or black panther in H2H,, and they are just olympic level. 😛

He doesn't need to amp to be peak human.

The chi is always flowing through him.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Who's universe allows their peak humans to do the most close to and/or superhuman feats?

Hopefully we get a wide range, might be a thread to reference to when debating MA battles especially. Maybe. 😉

Also tempted to exclude Val (KK) from the topic, afterall knowledge up to and including century 31 is obviously advantageous to the human mind and body. But i suppose we could allow it unless it's totally undeniable that Val is the Primo peak human.

So, [B]MU or DC? [/B]

Knowledge of the 31st century isn't really why he is what he is. He's trained in martial arts that let's him go toe to toe with super humans. Both alien ma and earth. His master was the first one to incorporate this, IIRC.

Overall, it's about even, IMO.

yea danny is a beast

Hmm, about evening but Valmer might tip the scales a bit in DC's favor.

Valmer? Do you mean Val Armorr?

I think Val puts DC over the top too just all on his lonesome. Only ones close to him in Marvel were classic Mantis and classic Karnak. And they still would get curbstomped by Val IMHO. Even by current Val.

Seeing as there are FOUR Karate Kid's, sure. Plus DC has a Mantis and she's called Willow.

i though we were just counting humans here?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he's not unless he amps up but that should tell you something when non peak humans can do that type of thing.

the chi power:

elektra
ironfist
shang chi
daredevil

their chi is strong enough to compete against peak humans like cap or black panther in H2H,, and they are just olympic level. 😛

DC just because of batman. Don't like how he can take hits from people that would utterly transform him into a bloody stain on impact. Also other stuff that he can lift is just ridiculous. Still like the guy but they definitly inflate him to be more than just a peak human.

Can someone define peak human please. I always considered peak humans to be natural humans, with ridiculous skills, that were not obtained through magic or any other form of augmentation other than training.

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
Can someone define peak human please. I always considered peak humans to be natural humans, with ridiculous skills, that were not obtained through magic or any other form of augmentation other than training.

That's exactly what it is. A 'peak human' is a human being in 'peak' physical condition.

Basically a top athlete. No superpowers or anything. Just very well-trained.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
DC just because of batman. Don't like how he can take hits from people that would utterly transform him into a bloody stain on impact. Also other stuff that he can lift is just ridiculous. Still like the guy but they definitly inflate him to be more than just a peak human.

has anyone in marvel taken that kinda punishment, not sure if captain america ever took a punch or slap from hulk.

Yeah but captain has the SSS. I mean atleast it's somewhat of an excuse. I think he got hit by the Hulk and lived but he was busted up but not KOed. Batman has nothing but his suit and I don't think that suit is all that amazing it's not like an iron man suit or a Dr. Doom or Steel.