Which actor protrayed Batman the best in the movies?

Originally posted by Kotor3
I gave my reasons but to add, as you stated batman is smarter. Can you honestly say that this was shown in TDK? Yes, Batman capture the Joker through use of technology and not his own wits which in my opinion is a disgrace to the Batman?s character which we know to be highly intelligent and a great detective.

True Joker did not kill Batman?s parents. That was a change in story. Still without getting into the stories of any of the movies which are all untrue to the comics, we still saw straits of Batman?s character and could match it and relate to the situation at hand. We could since the conflict in Batman?s character, about his life style and what he must do. Similar to what was shown in Batman Begins. Do you agree?

Two Face should not have been in the movie. It was terrible. He is one of my most favorite characters for Batman?s villains and he was not done justice at all. So I will leave this one alone.

In the 1989 version we saw people fight Batman one on one with swords and there own skill. The three men in the tower were evidently special hench-men of the Joker. Batman, just survive a plane crash. He could hardly walk. He was knocking over chairs. Batman did do pretty well with the fact that only the black guy gave him any issues.

I agree with this statement. That is what makes the fight scene between Batman and the Joker so horrible in TDK. For someone who took on a swat team and thugs but had problems with the Joker was absolutely ridiculous. For everything the Joker did Batman did not give him enough of a beating. Unlike his first villain in Batman Begins who he let die, as he is fighting the Joker he decides to save the Joker from falling. The one who killed his love! Why? Because now Batman is a Boy-Scott.

Thx

Fellow, When the joker prooved to be smarter than batman??? At the end of the story, Batman knowed about Joker's plan and joker's plan failed. He found him and he did beat him. Technoly use? Well, he used that technology in his favour in an smart way. He did that technology,He knows how to use that techonology to find the joker, and he did it. To me, that shows that he is smart. And he used some detective skills in both begins and dark knight. I think that he was showed as a very smart guy in the movies.

Not, im not agree with your second statment. I think that the batman 89 movie, didnt catch any of the batman character conflicts. We dint know about his origin, his story, his motivations, etc. All was about the joker. He just does his job and thats all. We only saw a little flashback when his parentes were killed, nothing more, and some little bits with keaton puting sad expressions, nothing more. Batman begins was the first movie to understand the character and why he is batman and his motivations.

Agree in part with you about two face. I would preffer that he was only harvey dent in the dark knight with a cliffhanger at the end of the movie and then a third movie for him in all his two face glory. I hope that he will be in the third movie, if not, it would be a great mistake by Nolan.

The black guy didnt have any special fighting skills, he was only an strong guy, nothing more. Yes, batman was hurted, but he could do much better that he did in that particular scene against the black guy. It seems that this black guy were killer croc or man-bat or clayface or bane or something.

Lets see, the joker used three rodwaillers dogs to atack batman and distracts him, and then , when batman was distracted, joker used that piece of steel to beat him with all his madness and fury. But batman didnit kill him because he isnt a killer, just like in the most of the comics.

And lets say the truth, batman killer in a cowardly way in the first tim burton movies and joel schumacher movies. Killed the joker, killed the guns in the chemichal factory, killed the penguin, killed two face. That was coward and stupid to do. Im not against batman killed in self defense to beat a greater evil, but not in that cowardly way that he did in those bad movies.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Fellow, When the joker prooved to be smarter than batman??? At the end of the story, Batman knowed about Joker's plan and joker's plan failed. He found him and he did beat him. Technoly use? Well, he used that technology in his favour in an smart way. He did that technology,He knows how to use that techonology to find the joker, and he did it. To me, that shows that he is smart. And he used some detective skills in both begins and dark knight. I think that he was showed as a very smart guy in the movies.

Not, im not agree with your second statment. I think that the batman 89 movie, didnt catch any of the batman character conflicts. We dint know about his origin, his story, his motivations, etc. All was about the joker. He just does his job and thats all. We only saw a little flashback when his parentes were killed, nothing more, and some little bits with keaton puting sad expressions, nothing more. Batman begins was the first movie to understand the character and why he is batman and his motivations.

Agree in part with you about two face. I would preffer that he was only harvey dent in the dark knight with a cliffhanger at the end of the movie and then a third movie for him in all his two face glory. I hope that he will be in the third movie, if not, it would be a great mistake by Nolan.

The black guy didnt have any special fighting skills, he was only an strong guy, nothing more. Yes, batman was hurted, but he could do much better that he did in that particular scene against the black guy. It seems that this black guy were killer croc or man-bat or clayface or bane or something.

Lets see, the joker used three rodwaillers dogs to atack batman and distracts him, and then , when batman was distracted, joker used that piece of steel to beat him with all his madness and fury. But batman didnit kill him because he isnt a killer, just like in the most of the comics.

And lets say the truth, batman killer in a cowardly way in the first tim burton movies and joel schumacher movies. Killed the joker, killed the guns in the chemichal factory, killed the penguin, killed two face. That was coward and stupid to do. Im not against batman killed in self defense to beat a greater evil, but not in that cowardly way that he did in those bad movies.

Well it seems that we definitely are not going to agree since we see the movie scenes depicted differently. Personally I feel Keaton displayed the characteristics the best and Bale physcially depicted Batman the best.

I like Adem West's Batman the best...

Originally posted by bakerboy
Fellow, When the joker prooved to be smarter than batman??? At the end of the story, Batman knowed about Joker's plan and joker's plan failed. He found him and he did beat him. Technoly use? Well, he used that technology in his favour in an smart way. He did that technology,He knows how to use that techonology to find the joker, and he did it. To me, that shows that he is smart. And he used some detective skills in both begins and dark knight. I think that he was showed as a very smart guy in the movies.

Not, im not agree with your second statment. I think that the batman 89 movie, didnt catch any of the batman character conflicts. We dint know about his origin, his story, his motivations, etc. All was about the joker. He just does his job and thats all. We only saw a little flashback when his parentes were killed, nothing more, and some little bits with keaton puting sad expressions, nothing more. Batman begins was the first movie to understand the character and why he is batman and his motivations.

Agree in part with you about two face. I would preffer that he was only harvey dent in the dark knight with a cliffhanger at the end of the movie and then a third movie for him in all his two face glory. I hope that he will be in the third movie, if not, it would be a great mistake by Nolan.

The black guy didnt have any special fighting skills, he was only an strong guy, nothing more. Yes, batman was hurted, but he could do much better that he did in that particular scene against the black guy. It seems that this black guy were killer croc or man-bat or clayface or bane or something.

Lets see, the joker used three rodwaillers dogs to atack batman and distracts him, and then , when batman was distracted, joker used that piece of steel to beat him with all his madness and fury. But batman didnit kill him because he isnt a killer, just like in the most of the comics.

And lets say the truth, batman killer in a cowardly way in the first tim burton movies and joel schumacher movies. Killed the joker, killed the guns in the chemichal factory, killed the penguin, killed two face. That was coward and stupid to do. Im not against batman killed in self defense to beat a greater evil, but not in that cowardly way that he did in those bad movies.

well done. 👆 one thing we all agree on is that would be a huge mistake on Nolans part if Two Face is dead.Like Bakerboy said,he should have only been in there as Harvey Dent and we should never have seen Two face till the next movie.I also agree that Joker never proved to be smarter cause in the end Batman found him and beat him and that he was using his smarts using his technology to beat Joker.Like Bakerboy said,Batman used his detective skills and both Batman Begins and in The Dark Knight.

If were going to talk technology here Kotor thats another reason i would have to say Batman Forever did a much better job of showing Batmans detective skills he has than the first two Batman films did cause Batman had to use his technology big time in Batman 89 to defeat the joker.Where in Batman Forever, Batman used his detective skills without technology to figure out what The Riddler was up to to defeat him.

Like Bakerboy said so well.Batman 89 didnt capture ANY of Batmans character conflicts because the majority of the screentime was devoted way too much to the joker and batman was a supporting character.Like he said,we didnt know about his origin,his story,his motivations or nothing because of that.At least we finally learned that in Batman Forever.

Also like Bakerboy said so well,that e black guy didnt even have any special fighting skills and the batman from the comics could have wipped his butt EASILY blindfolded because like Bakerboy said so well he has defeated big strong dudes like clayface,killer croc and manbat while being severely hurt at the same time as well.Batman 89 was a disgrace to his character him getting his ass wipped by that black guy only to kill him in the cowardly way he did when it was unnessary.Like Bakerboy said,the joker used rotweilers to attack Batman to distract him he beat on him with a metal iron and when he got free of the rope he did not kill him cause Batman is not a killer.

I also feel the same as well as bakerboy does.I dont mind if he kills people if its in self defense and there is no other way.But the ways he did it in such cowardly ways in the the Burton/schumacher movies were a disgrace to the name of Batman.

Im glad that Impediment has allowed this thread to stay in the movie discussion section because too many of the fanboys in the Batman section get all whiney and engage in childish name calling when I put down the Burton Batman films like a guy known as A.C.Thats why like Bakerboy said,I also respect your viewpoints even though they are different than mine.oh and thanks for clearing that up for me what you met in that post.

Originally posted by Scythe
I like Adem West's Batman the best...

thats another reason I am really glad this thread has been allowed to stay in the batman section cause I have noticed people who dont normally post in the batman section who arent die hard fanboys worshipping keaton as god as batman,that the causal posters say either Bale or adam west.

If this post of scythes was made in the batman section they would say something like-West? your an idiot.further proof your an idiot is you cant even spell west's first name right.You cant make a spelling mistake or anything in the batman or spiderman section without those idiots saying something like that half the time.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thats another reason I am really glad this thread has been allowed to stay in the batman section cause I have noticed people who dont normally post in the batman section who arent die hard fanboys worshipping keaton as god as batman,that the causal posters say either Bale or adam west.

If this post of scythes was made in the batman section they would say something like-West? your an idiot.further proof your an idiot is you cant even spell west's first name right.You cant make a spelling mistake or anything in the batman or spiderman section without those idiots saying something like that half the time.

I usually let the fanboys know they can go suck themselves. West to me was the epitome of campy superheroes. It was just great. He had a f*ckin' answer to anything in his Bat-Belt.

yeah great point.very good reason to like him the best.when i think of it that way,he was the most clever one of them all.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thats another reason I am really glad this thread has been allowed to stay in the batman section cause I have noticed people who dont normally post in the batman section who arent die hard fanboys worshipping keaton as god as batman,that the causal posters say either Bale or adam west.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Once again you talk about Keaton’s looks and not his acting. Anyway I will be glad to be a movie critic for this discussion. To not make this extremely long I will simply state some of the most memorable stupid scenes.

TDK – What the Hell went wrong?
First scene of the movie we see the most stupid criminals possible in that only the last one can figure out what is happening.
Batman on a motorcycle heading to the Joker can do nothing but crash. That was the best batman could do?
A policeman is left inside not outside an office with the Joker who has no restraints on him. Do we see a fight scene no all we see is the Joker has the cop in his custody because the Joker is an all time fighter.
The Joker escapes because of a fat man who has a bomb inside or attached to him who comes inside of the police station. How the hell did that happen?
Joker is able to appear and accomplish assassination attempts. With what resources? Actually everything the Joker did in that movie you accepted because he is the Joker.
Harvey storyline was horrible the only thing they got right was his looks. All of a sudden he is able to appear in a top crime lord car as if he had no security and shoot the driver and survive.
Batman is no detective in TDK he can’t even figure out that the Joker is sending him to Harvey instead of his love.
Batman was nothing more than a brute in TDK.
No emotion when Rachael die and most all no sense of revenge do we ever sense from Batman.
His car could not take a bazooka blast neither did it have any gadgets to catch the Joker who wasn’t even riding in a special type of vehicle.
Joker is not chemically deformed, so why is he insane?
Joker is able to take over the gangs with what resources and how?
We never see gangsters hunting him even though a hit was put out on him.
Batman not once is able to get the upper hand on the Joker.
Why the movie is called The Dark Knight? The conflict that we see with Batman as to whether he will kill the criminals he hates so much was never displayed. Where was his hatred for criminals?
Batman and Rachael fall out a window from a building and somehow hardly any damage is done to them.

This is just a few of some poorly written scenes that I am stating off hand about TDK. Batman Begins was beautiful. TDK was alright.

I still don't see how this movie destroys Batman's character. It seemed to epitomize the Batman character to me and showed his Bruce Wayne playboy persona well, too. Some of these points you're making really don't seem like points at all to me.

- Stupid criminals. Hello? Have you ever been to a prison? Not every criminal out there has the Joker's intelligence. Quite a lot of them are pretty dumb, and one of the movie's main themes is how easily swayed people can be by the Joker. I'm sure he roped all those henchmen into it somehow.

- You question how the Joker manages to do everything he does in the movie as if it were impossible. I'm sure if you asked the majority of Americans in 2000 if they thought it was possible for 19 crazy extremists to hijack 4 planes and fly them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, most would have said no.

- Batman's suddenly not a good detective because he falls for the wrong addresses thing? Seriously, 1.) Batman is under duress here because it is Rachel at stake and 2.) Did YOU see it coming? Did YOU guess the addresses were switched? I just didn't think he would get there in time or something like that. I never saw that coming.

- You don't have to be burned with chemicals to be a psychopath, although that certainly couldn't hurt since I felt Harvey's transformation from Golden Boy to vigilante was a bit sudden. Physically speaking, the Joker reminds me a bit of Charles Manson.

- Where is his hatred for criminals? He's BATMAN! The mere fact he's devoted his entire life to fighting crime shows his hatred for criminals. How could you be Batman and not hate criminals?