Superman, Hulk vs Thor, Wonderwoman.

Started by iceman2456718 pages

Well since Gladiatorz ftl travel speed means next to nothing in this thread or any other vs thread why does even matter? 😐.

Originally posted by carver9
So you're basing his light speed off of him flying through space, well with that said, iron man can go light speed, rogue can fly at light speed, vulcan can fly trillions of times the speed of light, hell, despero can fly past the speed of light. Thats why I asked you show me something that SAY that he can go beyond the speed of light because the last words that came out of superman mouth was that he's UNABLE to go that fast but hey, that was 10 years ago.

Is SS faster than light?
You know he only exceeded light in space right.

Who besides flash has exceeded light without being in space?

And tell me when has Iron Man or Rogue exceeded light speed in space?

Also you must take into consideration both the time it takes to reach light speed and that a constant force will continue to produce acceleration. And even with the slowest acceleration anything can eventually reach light speed and beyond. Superman has been shown to reach lightspeed and beyond almost instantaneously.

Originally posted by carver9
Again, thats your opinion, I havent seen superman lift anything yet reaching the weight of what thor lifted and thats the midgard serpant. How about this, show me something that thor couldnt lift that superman is able to lift.

Thor only lifted the head as the rest of the body was in ethereal form.
Also the ship supplied some of the pulling power.

Now Superman supplied more than 1/3 of the power to move a planet with enough acceleration that would make the total force he was exerting equivalent to lifting more than several Earths.

Originally posted by carver9
Since there feats are>>>supes.

Vulcan flew across the universe in less then a week and gladiator flew across the universe in one panel.

Sure that have.
What are you currently smoking?

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor only lifted the head as the rest of the body was in ethereal form.
Also the ship supplied some of the pulling power.

Now Superman supplied more than 1/3 of the power to move a planet with enough acceleration that would make the total force he was exerting equivalent to lifting more than several Earths.

Thor lifted the entire snake, what are you talking about? 😕

Originally posted by h1a8
Is SS faster than light?
You know he only exceeded light in space right.

Who besides flash has exceeded light without being in space?

And tell me when has Iron Man or Rogue exceeded light speed in space?

Also you must take into consideration both the time it takes to reach light speed and that a constant force will continue to produce acceleration. And even with the slowest acceleration anything can eventually reach light speed and beyond. Superman has been shown to reach lightspeed and beyond almost instantaneously.

Like I said before, a lot of beings has done space flight, not impressive but when its SAID that you can go the speed of light in comics THEN thats when the acknowledgement takes place.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, a lot of beings has done space flight, not impressive but when its SAID that you can go the speed of light in comics THEN thats when the acknowledgement takes place.

It doesn't have to be just SAID, it can be SHOWN.
For example, how do you know that Hulk can lift over 100tons even though it was never SAID in comics? Because it was SHOWN.

Now it has been shown for certain characters to fly at certain distances in X amount of time thus effectively SHOWING that the character can indeed reach Y speed. In a past comic, Superman has flown from Earth to Saturn in about 4min (the comic actually SHOWED and SAID the time elapsed). This is without a doubt faster than light. And yet currently, Superman is faster than this.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, a lot of beings has done space flight, not impressive but when its SAID that you can go the speed of light in comics THEN thats when the acknowledgement takes place.

No. travelling the speed of light on panel is evidence, and has to be acknowledged.

Originally posted by Raoul
No. travelling the speed of light on panel is evidence, and has to be acknowledged.
👆 I have been saying this for a while now.

Point being is that many characters like Gladiator, Sentry, Thor, Vulcan, Supreme, Surfer and many others are capable of ABOVE light speed and this has been both stated AND shown on panel. So it becomes moot point.

The fact is that Hulk has superior durabilty + regen to Konvikt not to mention that he would only get stronger and more unstoppable....the more punishment you inflict on him, and the longer the fight goes on. And with Superman fighting alongside Hulk....Team 2 loses, due to Wonderwomans inability to take out ANY of these combatants.

Originally posted by Raoul
No. travelling the speed of light on panel is evidence, and has to be acknowledged.

I agree. It doesn't have to be stated that Superman's fist can crush diamond if it's purely shown does it? 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101
I agree. It doesn't have to be stated that Superman's fist can crush diamond if it's purely shown does it? 🙂

No ANYONE on the field is capable of this...but the point is that Hulk is the only one capable of going beyond whatever strength and power levels exist here, as his strength is dynamic and his power source feeding his strength, durabilty, and regen is literally in-exhaustable for as long as he remains enraged.

Originally posted by h1a8
It doesn't have to be just SAID, it can be SHOWN.
For example, how do you know that Hulk can lift over 100tons even though it was never SAID in comics? Because it was SHOWN.

Now it has been shown for certain characters to fly at certain distances in X amount of time thus effectively SHOWING that the character can indeed reach Y speed. In a past comic, Superman has flown from Earth to Saturn in about 4min (the comic actually SHOWED and SAID the time elapsed). This is without a doubt faster than light. And yet currently, Superman is faster than this.

So do you also think that despero can fly the speed of light. With the way that you all are basing it, speed of light aint sh** in comics because of space flight. Thousands has done that and I guess thousands can go the speed of light, even rogue from the xmen.

Originally posted by Raoul
No. travelling the speed of light on panel is evidence, and has to be acknowledged.

Then magneto can also fly the speed of light, and easily with the way your basing things.

Originally posted by carver9
Then magneto can also fly the speed of light, and easily with the way your basing things.

wut ?

Originally posted by carver9
So do you also think that despero can fly the speed of light. With the way that you all are basing it, speed of light aint sh** in comics because of space flight. Thousands has done that and I guess thousands can go the speed of light, even rogue from the xmen.

despero can fly far beyond the speed of light. LULZ at you for not knowing that.

The best way to beat Hulk is by calming him. Sentry would be capable of this with his calming aura...but I dont see Team 2 doing this otherwise.

😕
...Maybe Diana could strip or something?

Originally posted by horrorwolf
The best way to beat Hulk is by calming him. Sentry would be capable of this with his calming aura...but I dont see Team 2 doing this otherwise.

😕
...Maybe Diana could strip or something?


Thanos doesn't have infinite strength and some how he manages to beat Hulk.

And last I checked, Diana had empathic powers AND a magic Lasso capable of commanding beings to do her bidding. Since when does she have to strip? Are you trolling with that silly ass comment?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thanos doesn't have infinite strength and some how he manages to beat Hulk.

And last I checked, Diana had empathic powers AND a magic Lasso capable of commanding beings to do her bidding. Since when does she have to strip? Are you trolling with that silly ass comment?

lol correct, but first up, Diana is NO Thanos,
And even Thanos stated on panel that never wanted to face Hulk again (not saying he's afraid per say, just that he's intelligent enough to know Hulk is too dangerous of a force if you allow him try to go toe to toe with him, or keep him enraged)

Diana's empathic abilities is unlikely to have any effect on Hulk whatsoever.

Lasso....Well I suppose she could make Hulk think about Betty Ross naked? But I like the idea of Wondy stripping better, and it a lot less effort for her.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
lol correct, but first up, Diana is NO Thanos,
And even Thanos stated on panel that never wanted to face Hulk again (not saying he's afraid per say, just that he's intelligent enough to know Hulk is too dangerous of a force if you allow him try to go toe to toe with him, or keep him enraged)

Diana's empathic abilities is unlikely to have any effect on Hulk whatsoever.

Lasso....Well I suppose she could make Hulk think about Betty Ross naked? But I like the idea of Wondy stripping better, and it a lot less effort for her.


Your Right Diana is no Thanos. She's superior to Thanos in speed. Which is all you need to pwn the Hulk. Especially when you are as strong as she is. Diana's empathic abilities can be boosted by her disc. It's a shame you debate against a character you don't know that much about. the Hulk is a crap Partner for Superman in this fight. he's the weakest Link by far.