Originally posted by lawest9Such as?
You need only turn to the numorous villians he has fought over the years.
Henshaw beat his ass silly. Kalibak upset up with a lucky punch. Shadow demons beat him the second time he faced them.
Originally posted by The PictHulk isn't greater than Thor but he is on the same level as Thor.
Hope you're kidding
Originally posted by Starscream M
is it not true that hulk has fared well against thor?
Because Thor doesnt fight smart vs the Hulk. If Thor used his head for once than would he stomp him. Writers have to make Thor and Supes type characters fight dumb just so bricks can have a fighting chance. Its a mercy/handicap thing.
Originally posted by Anti-MonitorNot really. I get what you are saying, but we cannot just argue powersets and by powersets alone. We have to use how these characters fight and gauge them by their fights.
Because Thor doesnt fight smart vs the Hulk. If Thor used his head for once than would he stomp him. Writers have to make Thor and Supes type characters fight dumb just so bricks can have a fighting chance. Its a mercy/handicap thing.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not really. I get what you are saying, but we cannot just argue powersets and by powersets alone. We have to use how these characters fight and gauge them by their fights.
yes, we do, but that also means we have to differentiate between PIS and CIS.
fighting "in character" doesn't mean fighting like an idiot when you can bfr or outmaneuver someone...
Everyone DOES realize that Diana gets her gauntlets. And sword.
With her gauntlets, she'll be the strongest one on the field. (unless you wanna argue that Superman or Hulk is greater than WW's strength times 40...)
With her sword, she can critically injure or kill anyone on the field.
With her current lasso, she can trap any individual on the field with her lasso.
Hulk is a liability simply he because he can't fly to keep up with the others and lacks the sheer verstality of the others.
Hulk smash or Hulk throw big rock just won't cut it when your opponents can steal souls or throw anti-matter at you.
Originally posted by Draco69
Everyone DOES realize that Diana gets her gauntlets. And sword.With her gauntlets, she'll be the strongest one on the field. (unless you wanna argue that Superman or Hulk is greater than WW's strength times 40...)
With her sword, she can critically injure or kill anyone on the field.
With her current lasso, she can trap any individual on the field with her lasso.
Hulk is a liability simply he because he can't fly to keep up with the others and lacks the sheer verstality of the others.
Hulk smash or Hulk throw big rock just won't cut it when your opponents can steal souls or throw anti-matter at you.
OKAY YOU DID NOT JUST SAY WONDER WOMAN IS STRONGER THAN SUPERMAN!!!!!!!! I am going to ignore her being stronger than Hulk because that could be a legit argument, with good points and biases from both sides. But saying WW is stronger than Superman is just wrong. Yes I have seen the respect thread. I know she does alright against him. I know supposedly her combat speed or reaction speed is faster than Supes, or at least that is what she thinks as well as Batman. Wonder Woman is not as strong as Superman. If he really let loose and did not hold back like he does in most of his fights, he would kill her. It would be a good fight. They have had good fights before. But Supes is superior, unless she exploits his weakness to magic or kryptonite.
Originally posted by Silent Guardian
OKAY YOU DID NOT JUST SAY WONDER WOMAN IS STRONGER THAN SUPERMAN!!!!!!!! I am going to ignore her being stronger than Hulk because that could be a legit argument, with good points and biases from both sides. But saying WW is stronger than Superman is just wrong. Yes I have seen the respect thread. I know she does alright against him. I know supposedly her combat speed or reaction speed is faster than Supes, or at least that is what she thinks as well as Batman. Wonder Woman is not as strong as Superman. If he really let loose and did not hold back like he does in most of his fights, he would kill her. It would be a good fight. They have had good fights before. But Supes is superior, unless she exploits his weakness to magic or kryptonite.
Wonder Woman IS stronger than Superman.
When she wears the Gauntlets of Atlas. Which she does in this thread.
They amplify her strength, durability and healing abilities by 40 times.
WW's strength is close to Superman. But at 40 times her strength? She surpasses his strength.
Originally posted by Draco69
Wonder Woman IS stronger than Superman.When she wears the Gauntlets of Atlas. Which she does in this thread.
They amplify her strength, durability and healing abilities by 40 times.
WW's strength is close to Superman. But at 40 times her strength? She surpasses his strength.
Raoul would you please lay down some knowledge 😎