Mandrakk Runs a gauntlet
Okay so he runs a gauntlet to prove his strength 😄
They really aren't balanced
1: Superman, Ultraman, Supergirl, WW, and Thor
2: Kyle, Hal, Yat, DS
3: SS, Odin, and Thanos
4: Galactus(peak that was shown[not potential])
5: Ion(peak)
6: Marvel Earth(everyone living)(current)
7: Thanos with IG
8: LT
9: Superman Cosmic armor 😄
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Is he that powerful? Surely Ion would be stronger. Mandrakk never did anything impressive.
There is no character more powerful than Mandrakk within the entirety of the DC Multiverse, with the exception of other monitors, Superman in the cosmic armor, and possibly God/Great Evil Beast.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Mandrakk created this DCU? WTF happened to the Presence? Asleep that day?
It's theorized that the Presence is NOT supreme being anymore.
If you read Final Crisis in conjunction with Relevations, Morrison more or less states that the Supreme Being in the DCU is:
Us.
We're the Supreme Being. The audience. Anyone who reads DC comics.
That was the metatextual point of the Miracle Machine.
Originally posted by Draco69
It's theorized that the Presence is NOT supreme being anymore.If you read Final Crisis in conjunction with Relevations, Morrison more or less states that the Supreme Being in the DCU is:
Us.
We're the Supreme Being. The audience. Anyone who reads DC comics.
That was the metatextual point of the Miracle Machine.
I though it was the Primal Monitor who created the multiverse and the rest of the Monitors came from it?
Mandrakk was one of the first Monitors, the best of them and then he got banished because he suggested that the Monitors were only parasites fit for one purpose, to consume all story i.e. the multiverse.
He became stronger because he grew into the Monitors worst fear, their thoughts made him more powerful: transforming him to into the Dark Monitor.
As far as the Presence goes it was suggested in FC that DS couldn't directly influence or usurp the Presence position except by taking away the freewill of all the creatures it created.
Obviously with everyone connected to the single will of DS, story would become Darkseid and the Monitors would become irrelevant as they relied on this story for sustenance.
DC has created loopholes ever since FC came about.
I still believe that no one in DCU is above The Presence, even Dark Side (which is the other half of The Source) is not above him.
Same thing about The Primal Monitor and Dark Monitor.
It has not even been established if these Monitors are above The Overseers or GEB or Michael Demiurgos, for that matter.