Mandrakk Runs a gauntlet

Started by Enyalus5 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
It's Half Time

Only reason I'm on right now ๐Ÿ™‚

Don't lie. Scooby-Doo's Monster Island Adventure is on a commercial break right now. That's why you're on.

Should I be concerned that you know that cartoon?

Originally posted by Mindset
Should I be concerned that you know that cartoon?

I just made the name up. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

I don't think you did.

Originally posted by Galan007
He beat/fed on Spectre AND Radiant (God's Mercy) in FC #7:

(third panel.)

That ugly bastid created the DCU?

DC is more daring than I thought.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That ugly bastid created the DCU?

DC is more daring than I thought.

Whoever said that is wrong. The Primal Monitor birthed the DC Multiverse, according to the panels. Mandrakk is one of its children (A monitor.)

Originally posted by Enyalus
Whoever said that is wrong. The Primal Monitor birthed the DC Multiverse, according to the panels. Mandrakk is one of its children (A monitor.)

The 52 Monitors and the Prime Monitor are one and the same.

When the DC Universe became the DC Multiverse, the Prime Monitor became the 52 Monitors- from the beginning of time onwards. Kind of the same way "Jenny Reality" in Wildstorm was only created a couple of years ago by Jenny Quantum but has also, always existed.

Mandrakk thus didn't solely create the DC Multiverse but he kind of did.

Why is he demonic/vampire looking? I thought the monitors were celestial-like energy constructs? He doesn't strike me as a highest cosmic force to me. Just a bloodthirsty demonic creature of some sorts.

No, I haven't read the story in case you're wondering.

Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
He doesn't strike me as a highest cosmic force to me. Just a bloodthirsty demonic creature of some sorts.
He's at least powerful enough to beat Spectre and Radiant combined. That said, he's obviously pretty high as far as cosmic forces are concerned.

Originally posted by Galan007
He's at least powerful enough to beat Spectre and Radiant combined. That said, he's obviously pretty high as far as cosmic forces are concerned.

It does seem to be so Galan.

Quick question some have said that the ALE allowed DS to collaspe the multiverse and DS couldn't have done this without it. While others claim the ALE or him "falling" had nothing to do with the collasping and singularity that it was all DS and his own power. What are your thoughts?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Quick question some have said that the ALE allowed DS to collaspe the multiverse and DS couldn't have done this without it. While others claim the ALE or him "falling" had nothing to do with the collasping and singularity that it was all DS and his own power. What are your thoughts?
After reading, and rereading FC, I personally think that it was Darkseid, and Darkseid alone, which was responsible for flushing the whole of DC down the cosmic toilet (ie. the doosmday singularity.) The ALE was just a weapon that allowed Darkseid to control all sentient life throughout creation - however, it didn't seem to have much at all to do with actually destroying said creation.

Originally posted by Galan007
He's at least powerful enough to beat Spectre and Radiant combined. That said, he's obviously pretty high as far as cosmic forces are concerned.

He was also felled by hv and a stick, and gravity played a part.

I really don't know quite what to say about the climax of Beyond and Final Crisis.

The lead up to the reveal of mandrakk was great, but once he was actually in play and on the field, he fizzled.

Nice art, but fizzled on so many levels.

These events from DC are becoming tiresome.

It's like chatting up a girl, putting in work on the phone, texts and facebook.

You've got her in the apartment, and you bumble it with a silent but deadly. Now you're embarassed and she just wants out.

Mandrakk can't beat a drum, much less true cosmics.

Come on! He was defeated by several Lanterns, he may as well beat Surfer!

Again he was beat by those characters when they were acting in the favor of the multiversal monitor empowered by the freaking miracle machine superman and some green lanterns didn't just roll up and merc him and again that wasn't his real body.

Bottom line is if Superman and Kyle Rayner had been on Earth from the start, Final Crisis doesn't happen.

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
Bottom line is if Superman and Kyle Rayner had been on Earth from the start, Final Crisis doesn't happen.
What will Superman be doing while Kyle stops the Crisis?

Originally posted by Mindset
What will Superman be doing while Kyle stops the Crisis?

Carving Kyle's face into Mount Rushmore.

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Originally posted by Galan007
After reading, and rereading FC, I personally think that it was Darkseid, and Darkseid alone, which was responsible for flushing the whole of DC down the cosmic toilet (ie. the doosmday singularity.) The ALE was just a weapon that allowed Darkseid to control all sentient life throughout creation - however, it didn't seem to have much at all to do with actually destroying said creation.

I see and appreciate your opinions. It has been argued though that the War of the New Gods is what caused a breach in the multiverse as it was stated on panel? So, I'm curious if you think that this is also a possibility for what caused the breach and him "falling" not him causing it all under his own power?