Cosmic (Monitor) Armored Superman, and Mandrakk vs Classic Beyonder and -Molecule man

Originally posted by cloud102
52 spins off it's own multiverse? wtf?

Each of the 52 Earth is surrounded by a multiverse of its own. Each having multiple universes related to their verse. Like Earth 52 will be surrounded by many other universes of the 52nd section of the Orrery.

The important thing is that each of these multiverses have one version of a character. Like you're not going to get 2 Superman's in the 52nd section. In essence you have many universes I don't think they are described as infinite but given the nature of the Orrery and the Bleed there isn't an identified limit.

The 52 system is organized and gives a limited number of versions of characters but it doesn't limit the number of universes.

Originally posted by Allankles
Each of the 52 Earth is surrounded by a multiverse of its own. Each having multiple universes related to their verse. Like Earth 52 will be surrounded by many other universes of the 52nd section of the Orrery.

The important thing is that each of these multiverses have one version of a character. Like you're not going to get 2 Superman's in the 52nd section. In essence you have many universes I don't think they are described as infinite but given the nature of the Orrery and the Bleed there isn't an identified limit.

The 52 system is organized and gives a limited number of versions of characters but it doesn't limit the number of universes.

Again...proof?

Meh.

IMHO,

GEB/Lucifer/Michael/Spectre/The Source/Elaine >>> Mandrakk and Cosmic Armor Supes.

Team 2 wins

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
IMHO,

GEB/Lucifer/Michael/Spectre/The Source >>> Mandrakk and Cosmic Armor Supes.

Team 2 wins

👆 Yeah....with the exception of maybe Spectre (IMO).

Originally posted by Enyalus
👆 Yeah....with the exception of maybe Spectre (IMO).

Meh, I fail to see how The Fist of GOD could lose to someone who is more or less as powerful as COiE Anti-Monitor, unless The Presence subjected him to loss (like the COiE event)

Too bad PC Supergirl wasn't around, then. She wouldn't have needed the cosmic armor to beat Mandrakk. 😛

(She nearly kills AM in the AM universe prior to him absorbing the power of all of it, if you recall.)

The DC Multiverse is clearly more than 52 universes. It's been shown repeatedly that the Wildstorm universes is one of the 52 Universes and that the Bleed- the "Ultramenstruum"- is in between each of these universes.

Seeing as how the Bleed exists in 196,833 dimensional space, and that each "rotation" of it creates a separate universe, the number of universes contained within the overall DC Multiverse is for all intents and purposes, utterly limitless. Axel Brass described it as basically equivalent to the number of atoms that make up the earth- trillions, upon trillions, upon trillions.

This is indisputable and on-panel.

Originally posted by tjcoady
The DC Multiverse is clearly more than 52 universes. It's been shown repeatedly that the Wildstorm universes is one of the 52 Universes and that the Bleed- the "Ultramenstruum"- is in between each of these universes.

Seeing as how the Bleed exists in 196,833 dimensional space, and that each "rotation" of it creates a separate universe, the number of universes contained within the overall DC Multiverse is for all intents and purposes, utterly limitless. Axel Brass described it as basically equivalent to the number of atoms that make up the earth- trillions, upon trillions, upon trillions.

This is indisputable and on-panel.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Too bad PC Supergirl wasn't around, then. She wouldn't have needed the cosmic armor to beat Mandrakk. 😛

(She nearly kills AM in the AM universe prior to him absorbing the power of all of it, if you recall.)

Is there anything scarier than a PC brick aiming at you? If you're not a cosmic/skyfather level being, you're basically ****ed.

Originally posted by cloud102
Is there anything scarier than a PC brick aiming at you? If you're not a cosmic/skyfather level being, you're basically ****ed.

Wolverine wouldn't be scared. Neither would Black Adam.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Mandrakk defeating Spectre is highly debatable, .
and seems CISy/PISy.

Meh, I fail to see how The Fist of GOD could lose to someone who is more or less as powerful as COiE Anti-Monitor, unless The Presence subjected him to loss (like the COiE event)

Originally posted by Enyalus
Wolverine wouldn't be scared. Neither would Black Adam.

BA was surprised that he couldnt harm Superboy Prime.

Originally posted by cloud102
BA was surprised that he couldnt harm Superboy Prime.

He felt bad for beating up a little kid. So he went easy and held back. Then he learned his lesson. And WWIII happened.

Now, like Bran said - he doesn't care. And neither does Wolverine.

haha beat up a kid? Kinda the other way around. 🙂

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Cool beans.
But what does that have to do with this thread?

Look up. About half this thread is people debating whether the DC Universe is made up of 52 Universes or whether that number is inaccurate.

And, with Final Crisis and Superman Beyond, most of what's known about the DC Universe cosmology is now up for debate. That kind of stuff is just interesting to me, even though there are never really "correct" answers.

Originally posted by tjcoady
And, with Final Crisis and Superman Beyond, most of what's known about the DC Universe cosmology is now up for debate. That kind of stuff is just interesting to me, even though there are never really "correct" answers.

😎 Marvel and DC cosmology and cosmogony are very interesting to me, too.

Originally posted by Enyalus
😎 Marvel and DC cosmology and cosmogony are very interesting to me, too.

There used to be a massive "DC Cosmology" thread. It seems like it's time for a redux of that.

Originally posted by tjcoady
There used to be a massive "DC Cosmology" thread. It seems like it's time for a redux of that.

How good was the thread? Or was it just a bunch of babel?

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