Black Bolt vs. Orion.

Started by cloud1026 pages
Originally posted by Enyalus
Who is that?

Valkyrie. In the issue, I believe it was stated that she's the greatest martial artist. Orion didn't want to fight, because he was in a pacifict state and STILL pulled even until Highfather broke up the match.

Originally posted by cloud102
In Orion's series he was always using veratility. His Mother Box has even absorbed enery attacks, and he would do the same to BB.

Just as good as a fighter? Not, IMO, Orion has matched against the Greatest Martial Artist in the Universe at a pacifict stage. And is considered the one of the greatest fighters in the universe.

What is it going to absorb?

Black Bolt's beat down someone professing to be the greatest of all the Kree soldiers, and never been defeated in h2h combat.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
What is it going to absorb?

Black Bolt's beat down someone professing to be the greatest of all the Kree soldiers, and never been defeated in h2h combat.

Neither has Orion and he can absorb the sound coming from BB. Even Simonson stated Orion getting the better of Darkseid when they fought hth against each other in his run.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Ah, I see, I see
let me ask you, who do you think is more durable between classic Juggernaut and Galactus?

Originally posted by Starscream M
let me ask you, who do you think is more durable between classic Juggernaut and Galactus?
😂

Originally posted by cloud102
Neither has Orion and he can absorb the sound coming from BB. Even Simonson stated Orion getting the better of Darkseid when they fought hth against each other in his run.
So, as I stated then, just as skilled...

The sound isn't what causes the damage from Black Bolt's voice, so absorbing that will be useless.

Unless you think Orion is more than 100x as durable as Gladiator, Black Bolt can KO him from the get go with his voice.

Originally posted by Starscream M
let me ask you, who do you think is more durable between classic Juggernaut and Galactus?
How fed is Galactus?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
So, as I stated then, just as skilled...

The sound isn't what causes the damage from Black Bolt's voice, so absorbing that will be useless.

Unless you think Orion is more than 100x as durable as Gladiator, Black Bolt can KO him from the get go with his voice.

I actually do think he is more durable. Most of those guys don't have durability feats on Orion's level. Just as skilled as Orion? Find someone on Valkries level and then I'll concede. He IS the Dog of War and has vast knowledge of every from of warfare across the universe.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
How fed is Galactus?
average showing...normal powered

BTW, I think Orion can easily avoid his attacks by going intangible or boom tube to another plane of reality.

Originally posted by cloud102
I actually do think he is more durable. Most of those guys don't have durability feats on Orion's level. Just as skilled as Orion? Find someone on Valkries level and then I'll concede. He IS the Dog of War and has vast knowledge of every from of warfare across the universe.
Being more durable and being durable enough to take a full scream from BB is not the same.

Originally posted by cloud102
BTW, I think Orion can easily avoid his attacks by going intangible or boom tube to another plane of reality.
bfr himself?

Originally posted by Starscream M
I could outdebate you if I read as much comics as you have
lol

Originally posted by Mindset
bfr himself?

It wouldn't be the first time someone has avoided the scream. If Orion can move faster than light or even just below that, he could avoid it. Or simply lock him in another dimension by Boom Tube his ass somewhere else.

Originally posted by cloud102
I actually do think he is more durable. Most of those guys don't have durability feats on Orion's level. Just as skilled as Orion? Find someone on Valkries level and then I'll concede. He IS the Dog of War and has vast knowledge of every from of warfare across the universe.
Right... so being more durable means Black Bolt might have to whisper a bit harder?

Maybe use 2% of his power, rather than the usual 1%?

What happens when he uses 100% of his power?

What are Valkyrie's feats?

Originally posted by Starscream M
average showing...normal powered
Galactus

Originally posted by cloud102
It wouldn't be the first time someone has avoided the scream. If Orion can move faster than light or even just below that, he could avoid it. Or simply lock him in another dimension by Boom Tube his ass somewhere else.
When has someone avoided his scream?

QS instance was pis

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Right... so being more durable means Black Bolt might have to whisper a bit harder?

Maybe use 2% of his power, rather than the usual 1%?

What happens when he uses 100% of his power?

What are Valkyrie's feats?

It wouldn't really matter if he used 100 %, IMO, and he probably wouldn't do that in the first place. When was the last time he used it at a 100% and what happened when he did?

Originally posted by Mindset
When has someone avoided his scream?

QS instance was pis

PIS or not, it happened.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Galactus
would you want to debate that in a battlezone at some point in the future?