Originally posted by Bicnarok
Does that matter, its not exactly hard is it pretending to be some character. I could do it.
No you couldn't. 😐
If you could, I'd be visiting you in your personal observatory that you most assuredly buy with the millions you made from acting. 😐 (Don't worry, in this scenario, I would bering the telescope lube for those times we observe Uranus. 😐 )
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
For an extended time? Taking on the emotional characteristics of the character? While following a script? Well enough to get paid?There's a very large gap between "pretending" and "acting".
There's really not. If being big in Hollywood had anything to do with talent then the people responsible for the "movie" franchise wouldn't get a look in...People such as Paris Hilton would never get movie rolls...and countless other lesser known actors would be hugely famous.
The fact is that Bale isn't grade A in terms of acting ability. He'll never win a best actor oscar because he doesn't get the roles that win the accolades...because he isn't good enough for them. I applaud the changes he puts himself through...particularly the changes he made physically between the machinist and batman begins...that takes dedication...but it doesn't take acting talent. He'll be an action actor for the rest of his career.
Originally posted by jaden101
There's really not. If being big in Hollywood had anything to do with talent then the people responsible for the "movie" franchise wouldn't get a look in...People such as Paris Hilton would never get movie rolls...and countless other lesser known actors would be hugely famous.
The fact that Hollywood isn't based on acting talent doesn't mean that "acting" and "pretending" aren't different things. A small child can pretend, there is a reason that people take classes on how to act it's really much more difficult to do effectively than non-actors think.
Originally posted by dadudemon
No you couldn't. 😐If you could, I'd be visiting you in your personal observatory that you most assuredly buy with the millions you made from acting. 😐 (Don't worry, in this scenario, I would bering the telescope lube for those times we observe Uranus. 😐 )
I could, most people could. Its the case of being at the right place at the right time, having the right face for movies and having learned a bit of acting. But the last one isn´t really applicable when you consider the success of Arny and Van Damme, they can´t act for toffee.
As for the Observatory, how did you know this is my dream?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The fact that Hollywood isn't based on acting talent doesn't mean that "acting" and "pretending" aren't different things. A small child can pretend, there is a reason that people take classes on how to act it's really much more difficult to do effectively than non-actors think.
The reason that people take acting classes is the same as wanting to get into any profession....qualifications count...In the case of acting though, it's certain schools that count. It doesn't mean that the people who go to them are any good. It's the same with art school...Having the qualification is far more important than actually having any talent.
Originally posted by jaden101
The reason that people take acting classes is the same as wanting to get into any profession....qualifications count...In the case of acting though, it's certain schools that count. It doesn't mean that the people who go to them are any good. It's the same with art school...Having the qualification is far more important than actually having any talent.
How about singing? It's just certain noises at the right times. Obviously no body needs training in order to be a good singer, right?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How about singing? It's just certain noises at the right times. Obviously no body needs training in order to be a good singer, right?
training helps with breathing control and vibrato...but if you can't sing without training then you're not going to be able to sing with it.
Acting is different...you don't need to be able to act to go to a good acting school...and once you're qualified, you don't need talent to get parts...you need a face that fits and lots of contacts....and even more luck
I'm sure there are far more talented people at acting that now serve coffee in late night LA cafes than many of the big names in Hollywood.
Originally posted by jaden101
training helps with breathing control and vibrato...but if you can't sing without training then you're not going to be able to sing with it.Acting is different...you don't need to be able to act to go to a good acting school...and once you're qualified, you don't need talent to get parts...you need a face that fits and lots of contacts....and even more luck
I'm sure there are far more talented people at acting that now serve coffee in late night LA cafes than many of the big names in Hollywood.
You're still dancing around the point. Just because people get parts because of their looks or their resumes doesn't mean that acting doesn't benefit from training. In fact those points are totally irrelevant.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Bale is a pussy for apologizing. Russel Crowe wouldn't have apologized
He had to for the producers of T-4 so there would be no bad press. I think he is a great actor and ,really contemplating it, that its hard to get into a role and be into it then get distracted. Hollywood is tough as it is. Try staying in the lime-light;you better be convincing.These guys have a tremendous amount of pressure to preform. IMO
Originally posted by Bardock42
http://www.cracked.com/blog/excerpts-from-shane-hurlbuts-set-journal/
Clearly Bale overreacted.