Yuga Khan&Darksied vs Galactus&Tyrant

Started by skyfather10 pages

2 things

how can darkseid absorb team 2? he has never absorbed anything near the power of galactus,more chance of galactus absorbing people as he has done it to planets/stars,dimension,cosmics,his own ship/craft.

how's darksieds effect on DCU gonna have any affect on team 2 when it cleary didnt directly affect some of earths heroes.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Through his own power, not the ALE or am I mistaken.

Isn't it completely implied that DS used the ALE to win the war in heaven, and with that kind of mind control he had access to the powers -obviously not his own, as otherwise he wouldn't have need of the ALE at all- that made him rip the multiverse?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Through his own power, not the ALE or am I mistaken.

through the ALE and because of all the stuff i listed that even gave him the opportunity to run with things none of which were under his own power.

Originally posted by skyfather
2 things

how can darkseid absorb team 2? he has never absorbed anything near the power of galactus,more chance of galactus absorbing people as he has done it to planets/stars,dimension,cosmics,his own ship/craft.

how's darksieds effect on DCU gonna have any affect on team 2 when it cleary didnt directly affect some of earths heroes.

He's has absorbed other dimensions either as pantheons of gods and Mordu's realm the Sorcerer's world. His also absorbed the power of few cosmics like Time Trapper. Outside of those it's not something he consistently does but he has shown a capability of absorbing dimensions.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
through the ALE and because of all the stuff i listed that even gave him the opportunity to run with things none of which were under his own power.

So you're imply the ALE amped him?

Originally posted by Allankles
He's has absorbed other dimensions either as pantheons of gods and Mordu's realm the Sorcerer's world. His also absorbed the power of few cosmics like Time Trapper. Outside of those it's not something he consistently does but he has shown a capability of absorbing dimensions.
what about the other part of my post

Originally posted by Allankles
He's has absorbed other dimensions either as pantheons of gods and Mordu's realm the Sorcerer's world. His also absorbed the power of few cosmics like Time Trapper. Outside of those it's not something he consistently does but he has shown a capability of absorbing dimensions.

Given his level of operation in FC, I'm inclined to believe he can easily duplicate any feats from previous canon iterations (PC,GDS) but to a multiversal degree.

Originally posted by Bentley
Isn't it completely implied that DS used the ALE to win the war in heaven, and with that kind of mind control he had access to the powers -obviously not his own, as otherwise he wouldn't have need of the ALE at all- that made him rip the multiverse?

He needed the ALE to convert everyone to his body. It's never implied that the ALE was responsible for the singularity that was described simply as destructive energies emanating from his spirit.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Gog was chanelling all of DCU magic and wasn't CM amped to insanly powerful abstract proportions. Besides ur argument falls completly flat when u compare how many abstract level gods fall prey to physical attacks. The very essence of the phoenix force was blasted through by the cannon of some starship, Galactus was visably injured and weakened by Tyrants blast and the watcher was beaten down by red hulk. Besides supes has been stated as being one of the most imposing forces physically in DCU, unlike with Drax who physically dominated Thanos in there last altercation 🙂 .
Gog wasn't channeling all of the dcu magic. Cm was amped, but that is neither here nor there the point is he can be physically beaten to a pulp.

The rest of your post is horrid abc logic.

Drax is Thanos' silver bullet making that irrelevant. Superman is strong enough to break Ds's face on his own. Context.

Galactus or Tyrant solos.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So you're imply the ALE amped him?

Galen simply question... have other used the ALE besides DS? You know the answer to this question so a simple yes will do. So, therefore it's not DS power alone it's a powerup. Really simple. If he was the only person to ever use it or be able to use it you might have a point but that isn't the case.

Allan... again he won the war in heaven because of the ALE and said war also caused damage to space and time (stated on panel) so without that happening and him dying and thus causing further damage he couldn't have done what he did. If he was this powerful that he couldn't done all this on his own why was he getting wrecked by superman, dd and orion? Why has he never been able to conquer anything such as earth or control the universe if it was so easy and he had the power to do so. The reason is because all these other things had to happen which wan't his own power in order for him to run with it and try and see how far he could get with his power.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
.....so the ALE is a amp similar to the IG then lol. Guess morrisons and Kirby's own impression of DS powers mean nothing lol.
Ds only accomplished what he did with the ale and in the end it didn't matter.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galen simply question... have other used the ALE besides DS? You know the answer to this question so a simple yes will do. So, therefore it's not DS power alone it's a powerup. Really simple. If he was the only person to ever use it or be able to use it you might have a point but that isn't the case.

Allan... again he won the war in heaven because of the ALE and said war also caused damage to space and time (stated on panel) so without that happening and him dying and thus causing further damage he couldn't have done what he did. If he was this powerful that he couldn't done all this on his own why was he getting wrecked by superman, dd and orion? Why has he never been able to conquer anything such as earth or control the universe if it was so easy and he had the power to do so. The reason is because all these other things had to happen which wan't his own power in order for him to run with it and try and see how far he could get with his power.

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Originally posted by skyfather
what about the other part of my post

You mean how is a singularity going to affect team two? It's certainly not going to have any direct effect unless the fight takes place in space. I'm not directly addressing who wins. My two cents would be Tyrant could probably be BFR'd to oblivion. But in saying that DS is also very vulnerable in his human skin.

To me it is a toss up. Yuga is a promethean, a giant of a celestial with considerable power over the Source which allows to manip any energy source alllowing him to depower anyone at will, whereas Galactus has incalcuble power with the PC. These two make it a toss up.

To me it depends on whether you think Yuga could depower Galactus of the PC based on the fact he can manip the origin of the concept of energy.

Originally posted by Allankles
You mean how is a singularity going to affect team two? It's certainly not going to have any direct effect unless the fight takes place in space. I'm not directly addressing who wins. My two cents would be Tyrant could probably be BFR'd to oblivion. Yuga is dangerous because he can depower anyone given the level at which he can manip the Source.
How coul dhe be bfr'd into oblivion? Name someone Ds has done this to on or near his level?

Yuga had a connection to the source he couldn't just depower anyone on site. He cut off the new gods connection to the source. If you have any proof he can depower anyone feel free to post it.

Originally posted by Allankles
He needed the ALE to convert everyone to his body. It's never implied that the ALE was responsible for the singularity that was described simply as destructive energies emanating from his spirit.

The ALE was also used to re-make the universe buddy. It isn't just about simple mind control. You can't have it both ways as OneDumb pointed out. It was stated on panel the ALE re-made creation. You guys choose to only go by how the ALE was desribed previous because in FC it was shown the ALE is much more then that. Yet also want to act like all previous stuff about DS wasn't true and now this is his true form and all other stuff isn't true about DS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gog wasn't channeling all of the dcu magic. Cm was amped, but that is neither here nor there the point is he can be physically beaten to a pulp.

The rest of your post is horrid abc logic.

Drax is Thanos' silver bullet making that irrelevant. Superman is strong enough to break Ds's face on his own. Context.

Galactus or Tyrant solos.

Hmmm funny, Iv'e seen Supes silver bullet used agaisnt him to and he didn't break nearly has bad as Thanos did with a single punch...and as I said given supes postion in DCU and the fact that he is the very concept of a "hero" I don't know what you are trying to prove. He only has 2 legitimate victories over DS...and one was while sun amped which IMO would beat the crap outta Thanos as well. Besides Drax face has been smashed by Warlock....somehow I doubt that would happen to DS.

Originally posted by Allankles
You mean how is a singularity going to affect team two? It's certainly not going to have any direct effect unless the fight takes place in space. I'm not directly addressing who wins. My two cents would be Tyrant could probably be BFR'd to oblivion. Yuga is dangerous because he can depower anyone given the level at which he can manip the Source.
THIS THREAD IS NO BFR.

Originally posted by Allankles
You mean how is a singularity going to affect team two? It's certainly not going to have any direct effect unless the fight takes place in space. I'm not directly addressing who wins. My two cents would be Tyrant could probably be BFR'd to oblivion. Yuga is dangerous because he can depower anyone given the level at which he can manip the Source.

So what's you're opinion if DS chanelled and applied his energy that caused the singalurity offensivly?

Originally posted by skyfather
THIS THREAD IS NO BFR.

Does draining team 2 work out for you 🙂

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Does draining team 2 work out for you 🙂
no seeing as he has not drained anyone near galactus's level of power since galactus is well fed here