Yuga Khan&Darksied vs Galactus&Tyrant

Originally posted by Allankles
The Sanction doesn't just BFR through time it warps the victims reality forcing them to live increasingly tragic lives that end in horrible death.

I understand that. Is there any proof that it would work on someone of Tyrant's power? Unless I'm misunderstanding, it only works on beings of lesser power. Darkseid wouldn't, for example, be able to do something like that to Nabu. Or Spectre. Or Mxy. I mean, Galactus is both capable of BFRing through time and high-level reality warping (proven when Doom took his power.) Yet he still needed to battle Tyrant for thousands of years in order to put him down.

I can't see Darkseid compete with Galactus.

Team 2.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I understand that. Is there any proof that it would work on someone of Tyrant's power? Unless I'm misunderstanding, it only works on beings of lesser power. Darkseid wouldn't, for example, be able to do something like that to Nabu. Or Spectre. Or Mxy. I mean, Galactus is both capable of BFRing through time and high-level reality warping (proven when Doom took his power.) Yet he still needed to battle Tyrant for thousands of years in order to put him down.

It would work on anyone not capable of high end reality warping. In essence anyone below Darkseid cosmologically. As a being who harnessed the power of oblivion, Darkseid is pretty high up the cosmic ladder.

Also prophetically in the lore of the old gods it was said he would become the most feared of all the gods. People like Spectre or Myx are above the OS, I'm not sure Tyrant fits the bill since he seems to be straight physical type being with the PC.

EDIT: Also it was said in one NG comic that all who worship holocaust and death worship Darkseid.

Originally posted by Allankles
It would work on anyone not capable of high end reality warping. In essence anyone below Darkseid cosmologically. As a being who harnessed the power of oblivion, Darkseid is pretty high up the cosmic ladder.

This makes sense.

Always enlightening to chat with you.

Still don't see why DS absorbing team 2 isn't viable.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Still don't see why DS absorbing team 2 isn't viable.

For starters, Galactus could absorb him. I mean, even at his peak, being one with the whole universe Galactus would be able to eat him.

Also, when has he used that as an actual attack against creatures stronger than him?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Still don't see why DS absorbing team 2 isn't viable.

🤨 😐

Originally posted by Allankles
By taking away the gift god imparted on all sentient beings, by making every living thing Darkseid's church. The creation in this case is all that the old (true) god created and his greatest gift.

The word "anti-life" stems from the idea that you're not trully alive if you lack your will to live. It is DS belief that life in the cosmos is chaotic and therefore must be reshaped according to his idea of perfection.

That is your view on the panel quote, but doesn't make it concrete one way or the other buddy.

Originally posted by Enyalus
This makes sense.

Always enlightening to chat with you.

What are some of Nabu or Mordru high end reality warping feats that would allow them NOT to be OS accordingly to this theory (first time hearing this one about when the OS will and won't work)

Originally posted by Allankles
The Sanction doesn't just BFR through time it warps the victims reality forcing them to live increasingly tragic lives that end in horrible death.

What happened to Batman was a result of the Miracle Machine repairing DS's damage.

Originally posted by Allankles
It would work on anyone not capable of high end reality warping. In essence anyone below Darkseid cosmologically. As a being who harnessed the power of oblivion, Darkseid is pretty high up the cosmic ladder.

Also prophetically in the lore of the old gods it was said he would become the most feared of all the gods. People like Spectre or Myx are above the OS, I'm not sure Tyrant fits the bill since he seems to be straight physical type being with the PC.

EDIT: Also it was said in one NG comic that all who worship holocaust and death worship Darkseid.

Originally posted by Bentley
For starters, Galactus could absorb him. I mean, even at his peak, being one with the whole universe Galactus would be able to eat him.

Also, when has he used that as an actual attack against creatures stronger than him?

DS had the power to fold the DCU when he finally revealved his true form, he seemed more similar in power to Thanos w/IG then Galactus IMO. Him abosrbing team 2 is perfectly reasonable and sensible.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mxy has been physically killed by one of Gog's blasts and the Spectre was almost died while fighting Captain Marvel. They can still be physically killed just not by Ds who seems to fail against Superman who is well beneath any of these combatants mentioned in this thread.

Gog was chanelling all of DCU magic and wasn't CM amped to insanly powerful abstract proportions. Besides ur argument falls completly flat when u compare how many abstract level gods fall prey to physical attacks. The very essence of the phoenix force was blasted through by the cannon of some starship, Galactus was visably injured and weakened by Tyrants blast and the watcher was beaten down by red hulk. Besides supes has been stated as being one of the most imposing forces physically in DCU, unlike with Drax who physically dominated Thanos in there last altercation 🙂 .

Originally posted by The Great Galen
DS had the power to fold the DCU when he finally revealved his true form, he seemed more similar in power to Thanos w/IG then Galactus IMO. Him abosrbing team 2 is perfectly reasonable and sensible.

Because he caused immense destruction when he died? Again can I use Abraxas to argue for Galactus level of power, considering that Abraxas only appeared because of that Galactus died.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Because he caused immense destruction when he died? Again can I use Abraxas to argue for Galactus level of power, considering that Abraxas only appeared because of that Galactus died.

Darkseid hadn't died in FC. He was falling through reality, and decided to drag everyone down into his hell.

He told Supes there is a black hole where his heart used to be but the idea was that he was turning all existence into his church.

Originally posted by Allankles
Darkseid hadn't died in FC. He was falling through reality, and decided to drag everyone down into his hell.

He told Supes there is a black hole where his heart used to be but the idea was that he was turning all existence into his church.

Through his own power, not the ALE or am I mistaken.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
DS had the power to fold the DCU when he finally revealved his true form, he seemed more similar in power to Thanos w/IG then Galactus IMO. Him abosrbing team 2 is perfectly reasonable and sensible.

Galen it wasn't becaues of his true form or true power. It was because the war caused a breach, him dying further caused shit to go down, he had a powerup in the ale that can do a great number of things and finally some of his power. That is not doing stuff on his own alone. When are you going to wake up and smell the coffee. He wouldn't have been able to cause any sigularity if the war didn't take place and he didn't die which wasn't his doing or plan. However, he did roll with the punches quite well and try and run with it

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Through his own power, not the ALE or am I mistaken.

The singularity was formed by destructive energies emanating from his spirit (according to the Guardians) so it certainly was his own power.

The singularity was basically his presence spread across time and spac,e drawing the rest of the multiverse.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galen it wasn't becaues of his true form or true power. It was because the war caused a breach, him dying further caused shit to go down, he had a powerup in the ale that can do a great number of things and finally some of his power. That is not doing stuff on his own alone. When are you going to wake up and smell the coffee. He wouldn't have been able to cause any sigularity if the war didn't take place and he didn't die which wasn't his doing or plan. However, he did roll with the punches quite well and try and run with it

.....so the ALE is a amp similar to the IG then lol. Guess morrisons and Kirby's own impression of DS powers mean nothing lol.

Originally posted by Allankles
The singularity was formed by destructive energies emanating from his spirit (according to the Guardians) so it certainly was his own power.

The singularity was basically his presence spread across time and spac,e drawing the rest of the multiverse.

So if he were to apply those energies offensivly in let's say a blast or a punch, how potent and destructive would you figure the attack would be.