SUPERMAN PRIME vs NEW GENESIS

Started by tjcoady5 pages
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, in that scan. But I'm saying, she took on an Alpha Lantern's body. And attacked the Guardians. Alpha Lantern > Granny normally.

"You have to be able to think to use a ring!"

Granny in the Alpha Lantern body was weaker than she is normally.

Anyways, if we're using "current" levels, there is no way in hell Prime is beating the Anti-Life Equation.

Or, for that matter, the Omega Sanction.

Edit.

Originally posted by tjcoady
"You have to be able to think to use a ring!"

Granny in the Alpha Lantern body was weaker than she is normally.

Yeah The Alpha Lantern host was physically weaker than Grannies celestial body from the 4th world.

Originally posted by Allankles
Yeah The Alpha Lantern host was physically weaker than Grannies celestial body from the 4th world.

...The Alpha Lanterns bodies are directly connected to the Central Battery...

Originally posted by Allankles
Not when he created the sun to escape Black Racer.
So then normal LR is not on the power level as Insane LR until he shows himself to be, which is because of CIS.

Originally posted by Enyalus
...The Alpha Lanterns bodies are directly connected to the Central Battery...

Through the ring....? Or what's the difference? Are you saying Granny with her proper body would have been weaker? Most Lanterns don't have Superhuman strength without their rings.

Originally posted by Mindset
So then normal LR is not on the power level as Insane LR until he shows himself to be, which is because of CIS.

What are you talking about? When he created the Sun against Black racer he was not insane. He was insane in a much later issue.

Originally posted by Allankles
Through the ring....? Or what's the difference? Are you saying Granny with her proper body would have been weaker? Most Lanterns don't have Superhuman strength without their rings.

I'm saying that Alpha Lanterns don't need to recharge their rings because they're directly connected to the Central Battery. They're hooked up to a source of near-infinite power at all the time. I can't possibly see how Granny Goodness was more powerful in her New God form than in an Alpha Lantern body. Maybe she couldn't wield the Oan power as well as she would have liked...but meh.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm saying that Alpha Lanterns don't need to recharge their rings because they're directly connected to the Central Battery. They're hooked up to a source of near-infinite power at all the time. I can't possibly see how Granny Goodness was more powerful in her New God form than in an Alpha Lantern body. Maybe she couldn't wield the Oan power as well as she would have liked...but meh.

But how are they connected? It's through tech no? Their rings?

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm saying that Alpha Lanterns don't need to recharge their rings because they're directly connected to the Central Battery. They're hooked up to a source of near-infinite power at all the time. I can't possibly see how Granny Goodness was more powerful in her New God form than in an Alpha Lantern body. Maybe she couldn't wield the Oan power as well as she would have liked...but meh.

Hal himself states that she was incapable of utilizing the ring. Being in the Alpha Lantern body limited her.

Originally posted by Allankles
But how are they connected? It's through tech no? Their rings?

I thought they were empowered directly through the battery. Sharing somekind of connection. I'll try to find out and post here.

In the mean time, here's the Wikipedia article:

"After the Sinestro Corps War, the Guardians create a new class of Green Lantern called the Alpha Lanterns. The Alpha Lanterns are seasoned Corpsmen who have been fused with their Power Rings and Batteries. Boodikka, Varix, Kraken, Green Man and Chaselon are all confirmed Alpha Lanterns; Hal Jordan is notably not chosen, and John Stewart is chosen but he declines the position. Geoff Johns stated in an interview with IGN that the Alpha Lanterns function as Internal Affairs for the Green Lantern Corps[citation needed] - Hal Jordan refers to them in the same manner. They have "the sentient drive and thought process of the Green Lanterns and the efficiency and logic of The Manhunters," as the Guardians turn them into cyborgs using Manhunter technology, and mainline their minds directly to The Book of Oa and the Central Battery. After the transformation, an Alpha Lantern would receive an additional power ring and their power battery is surgically implanted into their body so they need never recharge it. Similarly to the most recent generation of Manhunters, Alpha Lanterns have a secondary face which can drain a Power Ring of its energy. The Alpha Lanterns tend to chant the Manhunter-like slogan "No Lantern escapes the Alpha Lanterns".

Laira was the first Green Lantern to be punished by the Alpha Lanterns; for the crime of killing Amon Sur she was stripped of her ring and expelled from the Corps.

The concept of the Alpha Lantern Corps was conceived by Grant Morrison."

Originally posted by tjcoady
Hal himself states that she was incapable of utilizing the ring. Being in the Alpha Lantern body limited her.

I believe you. 😛

Originally posted by kevdude
He gets a beat down literally!!
He annihilates new genesis.
Originally posted by Allankles
The ALE (both Miracle and DS). Doomtube. Oblivion BFR. Takion manipulating OAN energy to red sun radiation. I mean New Gods have way too many ways of ending this non PIS.

If it was just straight physical maybe, but even then he hasn't faced anyone like Takion or Stayne.

He has faced bigger threats like Monarch and a shit ton of guardians. I cannot believe you would even dare compare takion to monarch. That is literally laugh out loud funny.

Originally posted by Allankles
The only difference I see is Asgard use magic, which an amed SBP would have a considerable but unquantified immunity to. But Asgard should be able to BFR him out for a forum win.
Asgard doesn't only use magic and we do have the fact that Odin is downright more powerful than Prime. No one on new genesis comes close to Prime.

Originally posted by Allankles
Takion, Scott Free and Highfather can take him without need of a BFR. Highfather and Takion can manip energies and convert them to different forms. Scott Free can make SBP kill himself. Also Lightray can create stars, it wouldn't be beyond reason for him to create a red sun and drop it on SBP.

The New Gods are not superheroes, unfortunately too much post Kirby stuff outside their titles have portrayed them as such.

Uhm, no they cannot. Prime has tangled with much tougher beings while weakened in bigger packs than these guys.

All of NG? NG ftw.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin is downright more powerful than Prime.

no he's not..like u said..odin can't even beat thanos..doesn't seem that powerful to me..

Originally posted by cloud102
All of NG? NG ftw.
You really think they are beating Prime with his guardian amp?

Originally posted by cloud102
All of NG? NG ftw.

who in new genesis even come close to this version of Prime power level??i'm not just saying Prime with the Guardian amp..it's prime with a guardian amp and a sun dipped..we've seen what happen when superman sun dipped in the fight against Imperiax..and this is PRIME..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
who in new genesis even come close to this version of Prime power level??i'm not just saying Prime with the Guardian amp..it's prime with a guardian amp and a sun dipped..we've seen what happen when superman sun dipped in the fight against Imperiax..and this is PRIME..
Prime with a sundip would indeed be a scary thought.