Originally posted by Enyalus
Or Deadpool for that matter. Going to the NYC Marvel offices and holding his editor hostage at gunpoint and looking for the Senior Editor (Tom Bsomething...)Heh.
Deadpool is one of my favorite characters but he isn't in the same ball park as guys like Myx in terms of his 4th wall powers let alone a guy who was going to consume all story.
Originally posted by AllanklesBeing a 4th wall character isn't unique to Mandrakk, guys like Lobo and Myx have been known to be 4th wall characters. The issue is he was erasing all story. Remaking the universe would still be part of a story, Mandrakk was eliminating the very idea of story, because as a Monitor he feeds on the stories of the omniverse/multiverse.
No offense to you, but that's just another 4 Wall stupidity in my book.
So, Mandrakk eats story, She-Hulk controls story,
heck, She-Hulk was instructing Byrne how to writer her.
So She-Hulk manipulates the writer of the Mandrakk arc,
which leads to She-Hulk winning,
see, 4th Wall action = 👇
especially as a means of trying to pin em against opponents confined to comic book laws,
on top of that, "consuming story" wasn't all it was crack up to be as he was defeated.
Originally posted by AllanklesDeadpool is one of my favorite characters but he isn't in the same ball park as guys like Myx in terms of his 4th wall powers let alone a guy who was going to consume all story.
Beyond this,
She-Hulk's 4th Wall awareness is literally a power set of hers even in her updated 08' bio.
Would I place She-Hulk anywhere near even let's say Silver Surfer?
Heck NO!
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's some dumb shitNo offense to you, but that's just another 4 Wall stupidity in my book.
So, Mandrakk eats story, She-Hulk controls story,
heck, She-Hulk was instructing Byrne how to writer her.So She-Hulk manipulates the writer of the Mandrakk arc,
which leads to She-Hulk winning,see, 4th Wall action =
especially as a means of trying to pin em against opponents confined to comic book laws,
on top of that, "consuming story" wasn't all it was crack up to be as he was defeated.
Again with the poop smileys.😛 I don't see how what I said disqualifies Mandrakk as the greatest threat in DC. She-Hulk can only do that for a specific story as do other characters for that matter, Mandrakk was doing it for the entire DCU.
Mandrakk was also the one who created the cosmic armor, a doomsday device designed to counter any threat. He was the best of the Monitors and became more powerful through the thoughts and fears of the other Monitors.
On panel Mandrakk didn't look impressive in FC 7 probably because his true from had fallen through the ovoid and out of DC reality, the form in FC 7 was an avatar of sorts working through another Monitor.
Originally posted by Mr Master
She-Hulk has far more 4th Wall feats than Mxy,
She-Hulk has 58 issues that involves 4th Wall affiliations/feats,
yes, practically the entire Byrne run.Beyond this,
She-Hulk's 4th Wall awareness is literally a power set of hers even in her updated 08' bio.Would I place She-Hulk anywhere near even let's say Silver Surfer?
Heck NO!
Again with She-hulk. She doesn't do what she does for the rest of her universe so her fourth wall powers are several degrees below a Monitors as Monitors feed off of all story.
And her 4th wall awareness is just that, awareness, she doesn't consume story like a Monitor.
Originally posted by AllanklesAgain with She-hulk. She doesn't do what she does for the rest of her universe so her fourth wall powers are several degrees below a Monitors as Monitors feed off of all story.
Many characters made cameos,
and they were all subject to She-Hulk's fourth wall powers.
The story is the universe for any particular arc,
so if She-Hulk controls story, She-Hulk controls her universe.
Anyway, it makes no difference,
fact is, She-Hulk can simply force Mandrakk's writer to make em a chump,
again, end of story.
And yet again, we see how this 4th Wall nonsense gets goofier by the post.
Originally posted by AllanklesAnd her 4th wall awareness is just that, awareness,
she doesn't consume story like a Monitor.
She-Hulk can tear Mandarkk off the page, end of story.
F*cking lulz at Mandrakk being compared to She-Hulk.
crylaugh
Anyhow, by this point I couldn't give a sh*t about how powerfull some people consider Mandrakk, especially since I doubt many people actually comprehended the story fully, and I'm not really interested in debating high-level concepts such as Mandrakk/Superman w/cosmic Armour against typical 'I'm so powafull!!! I'm liek 2 seconds away from warping teh Omniverse!!!' type of characters.
Originally posted by Philosophía
F*cking lulz at Mandrakk being compared to She-Hulk.crylaugh
Anyhow, by this point I couldn't give a sh*t about how powerfull some people consider Mandrakk, especially since I doubt many people actually comprehended the story fully, and I'm not really interested in debating high-level concepts such as Mandrakk/Superman w/cosmic Armour against typical 'I'm so powafull!!! I'm liek 2 seconds away from warping teh Omniverse!!!' type of characters.
I agree that omnipotent stuff shouldn't even exist in this forum. There is a religion forum somewhere around here.
Originally posted by Allankles
You have to understand what Mandrakk and the Monitors are otherwise this argument goes around in circles. Storywise Mandrakk is the biggest threat DC has ever faced. He was "vampire" of story. Bascially he literally consumed story, which would make him a bit of a fourth wall character. Unlike AM and other character like MJJ, this guy was actually going to consume the very concept of reality in DC.On panel though DS came off looking way more menacing and impressive than Mandrakk.
Eating the story was pretty much what Galactus was doing in the Celestial arc. Nobody would say Galactus is the biggest thread of the Marvel Universe. 😐
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Correctly written:We know that the Spectre at full power is LT's equal, LT had some "lowshowings" as well, the Spectre had more, but still, the Spectre had his share of high end showings as well.
Anyway, the Fury, so it seems, isn't even high enough in his own Marvel-Verse hierarchy to compete with Mandrakk,or do you think he could beat LT????
And why could he stop MJJ 😉
except of it, the Fury does't always adapts instantly, as CA Supes does.
Where is it stated as canon that the LT and Spectre are equals? That is what people like to claim but IMO the LT is above the spectre easily. Spectre has so many low showings it's not even funny. What Omniversal/multiversal threat has he taken out that puts him in the ballpark of the LT. He always has different hosts sometimes with more backing from God then others. All the do know is he was back FULLY by God and wasn't able to defeat the Anti Monitor. So, him losing to Mandrakk of panel comes as no surprise to me at all. Couple that with teh fact that we don't know that he didn't job.. so where you getting this we know he didn't job when the fight took place off panel I'll never get. Where you went wrong is that the Spectre equals the LT as that is a common mistake that IMO isn't true. They are close in power to a degree when Spectre is back fully but even then he still fails to get the job done.
Anyhow, by this point I couldn't give a sh*t about how powerfull some people consider Mandrakk, especially since I doubt many people actually comprehended the story fully, and I'm not really interested in debating high-level concepts such as Mandrakk/Superman w/cosmic Armour against typical 'I'm so powafull!!! I'm liek 2 seconds away from warping teh Omniverse!!!' type of characters.
Really, in the end there was simply a story fighting another story. Basically a story within a story.
Originally posted by Philosophía
F*cking lulz at Mandrakk being compared to She-Hulk.crylaugh
Anyhow, by this point I couldn't give a sh*t about how powerfull some people consider Mandrakk, especially since I doubt many people actually comprehended the story fully, and I'm not really interested in debating high-level concepts such as Mandrakk/Superman w/cosmic Armour against typical 'I'm so powafull!!! I'm liek 2 seconds away from warping teh Omniverse!!!' type of characters.
Not winning debate, so throws off entire argument with "opposition didn't understand the high brow concepts and themes at play, so they don't understand why my horse wins without question!" ploy..
Either your horse had the substance, or he didn't.
Becacuse to my eyes, Mandrakk was a vampire who was eating the history, both past, present and future of the DCU via eyebeams and hovering.