Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Allankles, as I stated Bane perfected Rule of Two. Revan was the concept artist, but never had the chance to employ it. You make a mention of the triumvate, but didn't the Exile break it up? It seems strange that 3 Sith Lords wouldn't fight against one Jedi.
You do understand that the Rule of two being associated with Revan in any way, shape or form was a retcon? One added after the games? When Karpyshyn (sp?) helped lead the writing for Kotor 1 he had no idea that he'd be working on a Bane novel almost 5 years later.
When Obsidian did the story in Kotor 2, again it was well before the Bane novels, so there's nothing consistent about the book in relation to Kotor. Nothing of the rule of two is suggested during Kotor because it's not part of the Sith order until Bane.
No one is denying Revan's role here, the rule was simply not a part of the Sith in Kotor. There's an MMO game set 3000 years before Vader (roughly a millenium after Kotor), and again there's no rule of 2 anywhere.
Originally posted by Darth TruculentRevan didn't conceive of the Rule of Two. If he anything, his Sith mirrored Krayt's more. Bane took his knowledge and applied his own, forming the RoT.
Allankles, as I stated Bane perfected Rule of Two. Revan was the concept artist, but never had the chance to employ it. You make a mention of the triumvate, but didn't the Exile break it up? It seems strange that 3 Sith Lords wouldn't fight against one Jedi.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Revan didn't conceive of the Rule of Two. If he anything, his Sith mirrored Krayt's more. Bane took his knowledge and applied his own, forming the RoT.
This would make sense if the Bane sequel didn't exist. Revan DID conceive the rule of two. What part of "any master who trains more than one apprentice is a fool" do you not understand? How about "2 there should be, one to embody the power, one to crave it".
Originally posted by Bespin Bart
The Rule of Two implies that there are only two Sith in existence. Revan only had one apprentice, but there were also hundreds of Sith working for him.
"Any master who trains more than one apprentice"-Revan. Other than Malak, there is NO evidence of Revan training other sith. He had hundreds of Dark Jedi but that's all we know. Thus far his actions seem to be consistent with the Rule of Two.
the sith in Revans empire were sith. they trained at the SITH academy and leanred SITh teachings from the SITH tombs and the SITH books on Korriban Just because Revan was training Malak as his apprentice doesn't mean that there weren't other sith around the sith triumative is proof of this. Nothing of that era states, claims, or shows that everyone else aside from Revan, malak, and then Bandon, were just dark jedi.
show me evedince that says only revan and malak were the only sith around and i will conced that i was wrong but so far revans holocron only indicates (but doesn't prove) that there should only be 2 sith at a time.
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
"Any master who trains more than one apprentice"-Revan. Other than Malak, there is NO evidence of Revan training other sith. He had hundreds of Dark Jedi but that's all we know. Thus far his actions seem to be consistent with the Rule of Two.
The fact that you think they are not Sith doesn't mean they actually aren't, you know. At least in Galen's case. And, each and everyone of Palpatine's apprentices were a 'pawn to be used for a purpose and then discarded', and that clearly doesn't mean they were not Sith. You have no point.
We know almost nothing about dark siders working under Revan and Malak; the only thing we can use to know they were actually considered Sith was the 'Sith apprentice', 'Sith master' titles given to them in the game. If that's somehow valid, then they are Sith. If not, then we cannot know.