Originally posted by carver9
What are you lol for when its true, trust me, I know more about superman than anyone on this board and I collect ALL of his comics.
Apparently, you don't. Either that or you're bias for Goku. With you saying Goku can punch harder and can fight faster than Superman, I can understand why someone would be laughing when you say you're a "Superman fanatic".
As for the "tornado" feat, until Goku actually creates a tornado like that, it's not all that impressive. It's a good one but I've seen better even before that.
Originally posted by SmashBro
Apparently, you don't. Either that or you're bias for Goku. With you saying Goku can punch harder and can fight faster than Superman, I can understand why someone would be laughing when you say you're a "Superman fanatic".As for the "tornado" feat, until Goku actually creates a tornado like that, it's not all that impressive. It's a good one but I've seen better even before that.
Not being biased at all. The combat speed feats that superman has, goku did it as a child. The thing you need to think about is this, superman failed to catch bullets. In the amazo comic it stated that it would take superman minutes to fly 22000 miles. Lets not bring up superman getting pound by konvikt, despero, etc.. and all of them are bricks in which goku would run circles around, even as a child.
Dont come at me with superman combat speed>when goku fight speedsters on a daily basis and has speedsters that he can run circles around.
Back on topic, any of the androids 10/10 without even using ki blasts.
Originally posted by carver9
Not being biased at all. The combat speed feats that superman has, goku did it as a child. The thing you need to think about is this, superman failed to catch bullets. In the amazo comic it stated that it would take superman minutes to fly 22000 miles. Lets not bring up superman getting pound by konvikt, despero, etc.. and all of them are bricks in which goku would run circles around, even as a child.Dont come at me with superman combat speed>when goku fight speedsters on a daily basis and has speedsters that he can run circles around.
Back on topic, any of the androids 10/10 without even using ki blasts.
Originally posted by carver9
Not being biased at all. The combat speed feats that superman has, goku did it as a child. The thing you need to think about is this, superman failed to catch bullets.
And when he "failed" to catch bullets, what happened then?
Originally posted by carver9
In the amazo comic it stated that it would take superman minutes to fly 22000 miles. Lets not bring up superman getting pound by konvikt, despero, etc.. and all of them are bricks in which goku would run circles around, even as a child.
So you're just ignore all the other times when he has fought at super speed against other speedsters?
Originally posted by carver9
Dont come at me with superman combat speed>when goku fight speedsters on a daily basis and has speedsters that he can run circles around.
Goku sure doesn't fight as often as Superman so him fighting "on a daily basis" don't mean squat.
Originally posted by carver9
Back on topic, any of the androids 10/10 without even using ki blasts.
Yep, you really do kind of overrate DBZ. I still don't see how can they counter the Muso Tensei.
Originally posted by Kento
Why was Superman even brought up in a fight to do with Kenshiro and the Androids??
Someone was comparing Goku's supposeth "orbit punching" feat to Superman's and that's all. Carver somehow managed to bring up "combat speed" though.
Originally posted by SmashBro
And when he "failed" to catch bullets, what happened then?So you're just ignore all the other times when he has fought at super speed against other speedsters?
Goku sure doesn't fight as often as Superman so him fighting "on a daily basis" don't mean squat.
Yep, you really do kind of overrate DBZ. I still don't see how can they counter the Muso Tensei.
Someone was comparing Goku's supposeth "orbit punching" feat to Superman's and that's all. Carver somehow managed to bring up "combat speed" though.
People got killed when he missed the bullets.
How about this, show me him fighting at super speed against speedsters and when you post this make sure its on the level of dbz or even regular dragonball.
I know goku doesnt fight as frequent as superman does but EVERY time hes fought, he blitzed the ENTIRE time and proved that he cant get touched by a brick.
I dont overrate dbz you just underestimate them.
Originally posted by carver9
People got killed when he missed the bullets.
But what did they do to HIM? And I think there have been times when has caught bullets. Doesn't mean that he can't catch them.
Originally posted by carver9
How about this, show me him fighting at super speed against speedsters and when you post this make sure its on the level of dbz or even regular dragonball.
And what level is that?
Just go under the Respect Thread. It should be like the first page. As of now, his fight with Mongul comes to mind.
Originally posted by carver9
I know goku doesnt fight as frequent as superman does but EVERY time hes fought, he blitzed the ENTIRE time and proved that he cant get touched by a brick.
Notice how he also stops at times when he fights too.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont overrate dbz you just underestimate them.
Not at all. I can tell when a DBZ character win or lose.
Originally posted by carver9
and what speed feat is this.
Like his fight with Han or him tying up a whip.
I just asked you for one example, show me ken fighting so fast that his body isnt visible, trust me, you wont find it.
I already told you some examples. Shin was stabbing right at him in the manga and he suddenly disappeared and appeared behind him. Shin's shoulder plate then exploded and Batt who was watching was like "Uh? When did he do that?"
You could also cite Kasumi Kenshiro's speed technique he used to dodge a swarm of bullets that were inches from his face. He obviously exceeded the speed of sound there and when he used the same technique against Tai Yan, Tai Yan couldn't see his movement. Kasumi Kenshiro is the namesake of Kenshiro and a previous would be successor of Hokuto. 199X Ken knows the same technique.
Now, if anime is allowed, there's a scene where Mamiya throws an apple in front of Ken and cuts through it with her bladed yoyo. Ken dodges it with invisible speed before reappearing, and when Mamiya and the kids grab each half of the apple it splits again because Ken cut it in mid-air.
He also does the exact same thing against Joker, a minion of Shin's, whose entire gimmick is moving so fast he looks like he's teleporting ala Dragonball. There's even a video of this in this thread.
Kenshiro is on the invisible moving speed level, so he's probably at least equal to Kid Goku in his second tournament speed wise.
I don't think Ken has the speed to compete in Dragonball Z terms, but you're underrating Ken a bit. He can go invisible through speed.
Originally posted by SmashBro
But what did they do to HIM? And I think there have been times when has caught bullets. Doesn't mean that he can't catch them.And what level is that?
Just go under the Respect Thread. It should be like the first page. As of now, his fight with Mongul comes to mind.
Notice how he also stops at times when he fights too.
Not at all. I can tell when a DBZ character win or lose.
Like his fight with Han or him tying up a whip.
They didnt do anything to him, he quoted, "bullets goes 774, its said that I'm faster but sometimes being faster isnt good enough".
You know what level that is if you have seen dragonball and that fight with mongul aint it. Supermans only impressive fight was with doomsday but it was against a weaker doomsday that was loser power and its still pales to dbz. Just look at frieza's combat speed feat and then talk to me.
I dont think you can tell if a dbz character win or lose if you think that ken is even a match for even nappa who has the ability to blow up cities and is MUCH faster than ken.
Show me something that goku couldnt do during his fight with junior because that goku alone could throw ken out of orbit or across another city.
Originally posted by Broken Warrior
I already told you some examples. Shin was stabbing right at him in the manga and he suddenly disappeared and appeared behind him. Shin's shoulder plate then exploded and Batt who was watching was like "Uh? When did he do that?"You could also cite Kasumi Kenshiro's speed technique he used to dodge a swarm of bullets that were inches from his face. He obviously exceeded the speed of sound there and when he used the same technique against Tai Yan, Tai Yan couldn't see his movement. Kasumi Kenshiro is the namesake of Kenshiro and a previous would be successor of Hokuto. 199X Ken knows the same technique.
Now, if anime is allowed, there's a scene where Mamiya throws an apple in front of Ken and cuts through it with her bladed yoyo. Ken dodges it with invisible speed before reappearing, and when Mamiya and the kids grab each half of the apple it splits again because Ken cut it in mid-air.
He also does the exact same thing against Joker, a minion of Shin's, whose entire gimmick is moving so fast he looks like he's teleporting ala Dragonball. There's even a video of this in this thread.
Kenshiro is on the invisible moving speed level, so he's probably at least equal to Kid Goku in his second tournament speed wise.
I don't think Ken has the speed to compete in Dragonball Z terms, but you're underrating Ken a bit. He can go invisible through speed.
and you think this is on gokus level? Answer this, do you think that ken could train in 350 times earth gravity?