10 year old minister?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Yes that is true, but even though the Church makes errors God continues to uphold her teachings and gives her authority.

Priests who molested Children in the Church are a tiny minority and proportionally the Church has as many as any other institution i.e. the US Education service.

Yes it was and is a horrible thing but God does not abandon the Church.

The thing with the Pope is that he is not infallible due to anything within him but because God has given his promise to uphold the Pope's doctrinal teaching.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So what ever the Pope says God will do, even if God thinks it is wrong? The Church can judge and declare holy wars and God is OK with this? How is the Church run by man only given some of the teachings of Jesus Christ supposed to understand and comprehend God and carry out his will on Earth?

All of Jesus' teachings have been revealed to the Church, some are contained in the Scripture others came through the Church.

Let us take the example of Pope Urban II. He launched the first crusade (a just war IMO) and told Christians that if they killed a Muslim they would not have to do any time in purgatory. Now, the Pope made this promise and so God will have upheld it- even though he may not have liked it. He could not punish the people for doing what the authority he left told them. Any culpability for the War would lie with the Pope/

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav

Priests who molested Children in the Church are a tiny minority and proportionally the Church has as many as any other institution i.e. the US Education service.

You sure about that? According to an Irish Priest it was quite common from what I could remember, also there are many cases in South America as well.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav

Yes it was and is a horrible thing but God does not abandon the Church.

Yeah well you had better sort that out.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav

The thing with the Pope is that he is not infallible due to anything within him but because God has given his promise to uphold the Pope's doctrinal teaching.

.....elaborate...I think you might have done this in a later post.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Let us take the example of Pope Urban II. He launched the first crusade (a just war IMO)

Why is that?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav

and told Christians that if they killed a Muslim they would not have to do any time in purgatory. Now, the Pope made this promise and so God will have upheld it- even though he may not have liked it. He could not punish the people for doing what the authority he left told them. Any culpability for the War would lie with the Pope/

Not sure what to say bout this, this is so wrong on so many levels.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
All of Jesus' teachings have been revealed to the Church, some are contained in the Scripture others came through the Church.

Let us take the example of Pope Urban II. He launched the first crusade (a just war IMO) and told Christians that if they killed a Muslim they would not have to do any time in purgatory. Now, the Pope made this promise and so God will have upheld it- even though he may not have liked it. He could not punish the people for doing what the authority he left told them. Any culpability for the War would lie with the Pope/

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I just don't get this at all why would God let man who is flawed by his own law dictate what he has to do? Even when he made it clear even in the 10 commandments, thou shall not kill? Which I understand that the Roman Catholics changed from murder in their translation. Why would an all knowing God let the small minded man say what God should do?

Furthermore you cant even prove that God wants you to do anything.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Furthermore you cant even prove that God wants you to do anything.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
What’s to prevent the Pope from getting a metal illness that affects his judgment and tells everyone that gays can get married? Who is to say that the Pope is wrong?

Well yeah I agree...im just saying the argument that pope is infallable due to God is nonsensical because you cant even prove God exists.

The Pope does not tell God what to do. He does things which God gives his backing too, if the Pope did something which God felt was totally against his will then the Pope would surely die or better yet, would never become Pope. No Pope has ever departed from the Faith...it is inconceivable that one would.

Why would God trust a man to do this job? Because though we are imperfect we are the only things that can do the job...

The Crusade was justified because it was a response to a plea from help from a beleaguered Constantinople who had suffered from Islamic attacks.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well yeah I agree...im just saying the argument that pope is infallable due to God is nonsensical because you cant even prove God exists.

Kinda irrelevant thing to say though when someone believes that God does exist...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
The Pope does not tell God what to do. He does things which God gives his backing too, if the Pope did something which God felt was totally against his will then the Pope would surely die or better yet, would never become Pope. No Pope has ever departed from the Faith...it is inconceivable that one would.

Why would God trust a man to do this job? Because though we are imperfect we are the only things that can do the job...

How do you know Gods talking to him or guides him?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav

The Crusade was justified because it was a response to a plea from help from a beleaguered Constantinople who had suffered from Islamic attacks.

Guess you could be right.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Kinda irrelevant thing to say though when someone believes that God does exist...

Depends really but if somebody believes in God and his views are going to affect me personally I want some decent proof that God exists and speaks to him or the Pope.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
The Pope does not tell God what to do. He does things which God gives his backing too, if the Pope did something which God felt was totally against his will then the Pope would surely die or better yet, would never become Pope. No Pope has ever departed from the Faith...it is inconceivable that one would.

Why would God trust a man to do this job? Because though we are imperfect we are the only things that can do the job...

The Crusade was justified because it was a response to a plea from help from a beleaguered Constantinople who had suffered from Islamic attacks.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Depends really but if somebody believes in God and his views are going to affect me personally I want some decent proof that God exists and speaks to him or the Pope.

You're Catholic but don't believe in God or that the Pope has his authority?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're Catholic but don't believe in God or that the Pope has his authority?

...why are you asking this question?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
...why are you asking this question?

Because it's the only reason you would make the quoted statement and because I find it odd and contradictory.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because it's the only reason you would make the quoted statement and because I find it odd and contradictory.

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Originally posted by chithappens
Video

* Sorry, I'm not sure how to just put the video up on the post.

Does anyone else have a problem with this?

Made me laugh at first but it's actually kinda pitiful to me.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Here is a young kid reading the Qur'an. And its equally amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz5Mr-0-aEA

I love how at the beginning of both of these videos they adjust the microphone. 😂

people people... What religon is this kid anyway? He can't be a Roman Catholic. He must be prodestant or Lutheran maybe. I highly doubt that this young man was sent by God to do his work. But he did arouse something in me. I dunno what it was but it did arouse something.... Something from the heart. That children can make a difference. If this child is our future... then I think it is safe to say that our future is looking pretty bright. However, if God DID tell him to preach, perhaps it wasn't at his age. He is a very good speaker though and will make a good one when he is older.

Originally posted by Nighty101
If this child is our future... then I think it is safe to say that our future is looking pretty bright.

No single child is our future.

Originally posted by Nighty101
people people... What religon is this kid anyway? He can't be a Roman Catholic. He must be prodestant or Lutheran maybe. I highly doubt that this young man was sent by God to do his work. But he did arouse something in me. I dunno what it was but it did arouse something.... Something from the heart. That children can make a difference. If this child is our future... then I think it is safe to say that our future is looking pretty bright. However, if God DID tell him to preach, perhaps it wasn't at his age. He is a very good speaker though and will make a good one when he is older.

He's probably not Lutheran either.