Originally posted by Publius II
To be fair, I doubt a quarter century of inactivity heightened his skill.
Not with a lightsaber.
But he was actively using the Force throughout his years as Senator and Chancellor (i.e. Sith rituals portrayed in Sithisis, his training of Count Dooku, and constant meditation in the dark side of the Force).
I agree with you. Kyp would have to act very fast to make sure one of his weaker partners were not quickly dispatched, because if he loses them, hes done for.
Were the scenario that the trio knew what Sidious was capable of before hand, although I guess they should already have knowladge of him, then Kyp would need to be ready for anything in the beginning and not give Palpatine any time to incapacitate anyone.
That was dumb. I thought this was DE Sidious.
Based on what? Caedus, who was described throughout Legacy of the Force to be "second only" to Luke himself was also stated to only have more power than Vader at his height.I'll point out that Vader was 80% as powerful overall as OT Sidious; that should put him very close to RotS Sidious.
You're delving into the territory of speculating what Sidious may think. You have no way to corroborate that. Based on feats and narrative, Sidious enjoys a considerable Force advantage over Jaina and Kyle, and no one has substantiated the idea that Kyp can beat him.
His only real chance is to defeat him when he's crushing Jaina or Kyle. He's not going to overcome Palpatine strength-to-strength.
Originally posted by Gideon
His only real chance is to defeat him when he's crushing Jaina or Kyle. He's not going to overcome Palpatine strength-to-strength.
Despite displaying a level of power lightyears beyond Sidious' established limitations?
As some of you guys love to ignore, the movies quite effectively establish the RotS power houses to be street level Force Users. Yoda, the most powerful Jedi of the era, literally struggles with low end telekinesis throughout the movies, and Sidious is later established to be within the same power level when they both effectively stalemate each other.
Extremely powerful for their time, sure, but comparing them to somebody like Kyp, an absolute titan who has displayed the ability to manipulate the gravity of several Dovin Bazils (the gravity of which was capable of dragging a moon out of its orbit) at once really isn't a good comparison. By all available evidence, Kyp absolutely destroys Sidious in a direct Force contest, "strength-to-strength."
Right.
Caedus, who again, is established as second only amongst the Jedi to Luke Skywalker (i.e. more powerful than Kyp), was only established at his peak as having powers that "surpass even his grandfather, Darth Vader," found himself incapable of using telekinesis to raise a command chair Luke had damaged.
Guess he must be weaker than Kyp.
Oh, wait.
You're on ignore.
Originally posted by Gideon
Right.
You're damn right it is.
Caedus, who again, is established as second only amongst the Jedi to Luke Skywalker (i.e. more powerful than Kyp),
Provide the quote, surrounding passages, and the appropriate page numbers, and then prove that the statement's a direct reference to their power in the Force, that it's not subject to hyperbole, and that it's coming directly from the omniscient narrator. Or drop the point.
was only established at his peak as having powers that "surpass even his grandfather, Darth Vader,"
You do realise that that statement, alone, doesn't actually attribute him with an upper level of ability, right? It means that he's at the very least more powerful than Vader; at the very most, the statement alone is open to any possibility. What purpose was there to this?
found himself incapable of using telekinesis to raise a command chair Luke had damaged.
Provide the quote, surrounding passages, and the appropriate page numbers. Or drop the point.