Punisher vs Krypto

Started by Battlehammer4 pages

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What the hell are you talking about? Hiding from Doom once? Suggesting a plan that impressed Captain America that one time? Frank is good with prep, yes... I'll give you that much-- but it ain't good enough to beat Spider-Man, Wolverine, Daredevil, and the Hulk... or in this case, Krypto.

Spider-Man was clueless and his spider-sense was fooled; Wolverine was a stupid, arrogant drunk who snapped almost as much as he referred to himself in the third-person as the "ol' canucklehead"; Banner was conveniently amnesiac; and Hulk was shown to be less durable than normal. Only Daredevil caught some slack from Ennis', and that's because he's the closest thing to normal out of all four of them.


cosigned on all accounts

krypto heatvisions punisher then snapps his bones in pieces

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What the hell are you talking about? Hiding from Doom once?

Surviving a trap made by Dr Doom which caused Doom to say he was impressed by Pun and stated that trying to kill him would be a challenge.

Also if you read the comic Doom was analysing data, so its not just merely a matter of hiding from him when Doom is using his intellectual skills to find you. Also in the end Pun lured him out into the open.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Suggesting a plan that impressed Captain America that one time?

Hes gunned him down with prep and escaped capture from Cap and an FBI agent.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Frank is good with prep, yes... I'll give you that much-- but it ain't good enough to beat Spider-Man, Wolverine, Daredevil,

Ok then i'll ask you again, why can't he do it when hes outsmarted Cap and beaten Cap with prep before and beaten Spiderman with prep before on numerous ocassions? Hes also beaten DD with prep before and Wolverine has been shot loads of times via distractions hell in one Xmen issue he got damaged by a flame attack and he wasnt even distracted. Hell Angel even stated that Wolverine sometimes becomes over confident due to his HF.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

and the Hulk... or in this case, Krypto.

Well since Krypto is supposed to be more pwoerful than Superman...yeah but I was arguing on the basis that Krypto is as powerful (or slightly weaker) than Superman, which was not your point. You were simply arguing that Frank can't do it.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Spider-Man was clueless and his spider-sense was fooled;

No he didn't. On numerous ocassions his SS has worked 1 split second before a bomb or a threat is triggered. So if you have a bomb and you put it next to Spiderman his sense wont go off until the bomb is triggered. I posted examples of this as well.

Spiderman thought they were real bombs and didnt move and thought his SS hadnt gone off because he didnt trigger the bomb.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Wolverine was a stupid, arrogant drunk who snapped almost as much as he referred to himself in the third-person as the "ol' canucklehead";

That doesnt change the fact Angel said that Wolverines HF can make him over-confident and that Wolverine has been shot loads of times via distractions. Wolverines speech was bad-writing him being tricked was not.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Banner was conveniently amnesiac; and Hulk was shown to be less durable than normal.

Then post scans of Hulk taking internal damage, to prove your case.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Only Daredevil caught some slack from Ennis', and that's because he's the closest thing to normal out of all four of them.

Ok.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Typical showings have you playing devil's advocate for the Punisher, despite horrible or impossible odds.

I usually have some basis for my view.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

The Hulk's insides would have to be almost as tough or as tough as his outside to endure the type of damage he's usually exposed to. Hell, his heart should be the toughest part of him to damage, with the exception of bone.

Well to be fair you're making assumptions and its not neccsarily logical. If your outsides are far tougher than your insides then they obvously protect the weaker parts of your body.

Also Professor Hulk backed down from Nick Fury who thereatened him with an armour pierceing shell to the eye. If Nick Fury was following your logic Nick wouldnt have aimed for the eye and assumed that his eye was as durable as everywhere else, also Proff Hulk didnt want none either.

Since his eye is less durable it stands to reason his insides would be as well.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

That's tricking Banner, not beating the Hulk. That's also irrelevant to the fight with Krypto.

If you beat Banner you beat the Hulk. I see what you mean but you missed the point.

Anyway Krypto is more powerful than Superman but thats not what you're are arguing.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Superman is constantly being amped and depowered, and he has long history of conveniently forgetting his other powers so that his stories go beyond the first page.

It was a low-showing, therefore it could happen but its unlikley thats why I gave him one win via nuke. Its really not that big a deal. Superman also got fuked up by a nuke in DKR

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

Let's say neither he nor Krypto could handle a nuke... Why couldn't they avoid it with their super-speed? And for that matter, how the hell is Frank not going to be incinerated by the blast?

They dont always use superspeed. Teleportation.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol

It doesn't matter how much prep he has or how big an arsenal he's got; he doesn't have the speed or reaction time to put up a fight against a bloodlusted Krypto.

Well since hes more powerful than Superman yeah, but thats not what you were arguing.

Originally posted by cloud102
Krypto is actually tougher than Superman. So don't compare Superman with Krypto.

If thats the case then you're correct. Are you sure of this?

yea Logan staring at a note like a retard is not abd writing right or the fact he couldent tell punisher was in the area even though he one of the best trackers in the world.....or the fact he has superhuman senses and coudlent here a rocket laucncher.....yea non of that was bad writing.............

dont get me started on spiderman

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If thats the case then you're correct. Are you sure of this?

well he's alot more dangerous then superman, alot more vicious and uses all of his powers just because he has the rationality of a dog. He's alot faster then superman, his bites will do more damage then supermans punches, he can freeze with a bark, or just blow things away. his heatvision is about the same in deadly ness. Plus as adog his attacks always use superspeed. there should be about the same durabilty but krypto is a hell of alot harder to fight unless you have the intellegence to match the powers needed.

Originally posted by jalek moye
well he's alot more dangerous then superman, alot more vicious and uses all of his powers just because he has the rationality of a dog. He's alot faster then superman, his bites will do more damage then supermans punches, he can freeze with a bark, or just blow things away. his heatvision is about the same in deadly ness. Plus as adog his attacks always use superspeed. there should be about the same durabilty but krypto is a hell of alot harder to fight unless you have the intellegence to match the powers needed.

Well when kyrpto fought Superman Prime all he did was try to bite him. I didnt see him use any techniques except for superstrength.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
If thats the case then you're correct. Are you sure of this?

I'm pretty sure it's the same thing as dog > man. Even on Krypton. Superman, I believe was happy he was his watchdog.

Remember, Krypto DID do damage to Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well when kyrpto fought Superman Prime all he did was try to bite him. I didnt see him use any techniques except for superstrength.

he heatvisioned him the second time also. but his bites were one of then few things that were actually hurting him.

Originally posted by cloud102
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing as dog > man. Even on Krypton. Superman, I believe was happy he was his watchdog.

Well Krytpo is an average proof and to be quite honest I think an avearge man could beat an average dog. Its not likes hes a pittbull.

Originally posted by cloud102

Remember, Krypto DID do damage to Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis.

Yeah that bcause of teeth, that dont mean he was more durable. Looking at IC superboy was tougher than Kyrpto. So thats not helping you case.

Originally posted by jalek moye
he heatvisioned him the second time also. but his bites were one of then few things that were actually hurting him.

Ok so it means sometimes he doesnt heat vision...

...........superbpy would kcik the shit out of punisher effortlessly........

..........what kinda fanboy crazy shit is this......how the hell is punisher with any amount of prep gunna do jack to superman level character let alone 3 horus of prep........it reatrd and simply fanboy delusions.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Ok so it means sometimes he doesnt heat vision...


somtimes but he tends to do it alot, its not like he has a set style he's a dog. But hes really viscous and will heatvision somthing or someone pretty quickly, don't forget he has superbarks and freeze barks too. (wow that sounds so stupid)

superman has him trained pretty well to use his abilites when needed

Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........superbpy would kcik the shit out of punisher effortlessly........

..........what kinda fanboy crazy shit is this......how the hell is punisher with any amount of prep gunna do jack to superman level character let alone 3 horus of prep........it reatrd and simply fanboy delusions.


lol its 3 years, but still no.

oh lol wow im tired I thought it said three hours that makes me feel better

Originally posted by jalek moye
somtimes but he tends to do it alot, its not like he has a set style he's a dog. But hes really viscous and will heatvision somthing or someone pretty quickly, don't forget he has superbarks and freeze barks too. (wow that sounds so stupid)

superman has him trained pretty well to use his abilites when needed

Anyway my point is this. I cant see any proof that Krypto is tougher than Superman. Since Superman has been koed via a nuke before the same could happen to Krypto, therefore Punisher can get 1 win.

I think thats reasonable. Sure he uses his other powers but since he doesnt always we can see pun could get one win via this method.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well Krytpo is an average proof and to be quite honest I think an avearge man could beat an average dog. Its not likes hes a pittbull.

Yeah that bcause of teeth, that dont mean he was more durable. Looking at IC superboy was tougher than Kyrpto. So thats not helping you case.

Ok so it means sometimes he doesnt heat vision...

In some instances it does. Did you read the Atlas arc? Atlas couldn't put him down, yet he did KO Superman.

Plus towards the end, Lois's dad ordered to put Krypto down by special tech/weapons and all it did was get him MORE angry. Nevertheless, they were surprised Krypto wasn't dead.

......ecpt we dont go by low showings......

it funny how you go by punisher best showings but his opponets worses.

yea it is retard to think he gets one win

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Anyway my point is this. I cant see any proof that Krypto is tougher than Superman. Since Superman has been koed via a nuke before the same could happen to Krypto, therefore Punisher can get 1 win.

I think thats reasonable. Sure he uses his other powers but since he doesnt always we can see pun could get one win via this method.


the problem with the nuke is that he always uses his speed,

Originally posted by cloud102
In some instances it does.

and sometimes it doesnt.

Originally posted by cloud102

Did you read the Atlas arc? Atlas couldn't put him down, yet he did KO Superman.

Plus towards the end, Lois's dad ordered to put Krypto down by special tech/weapons and all it did was get him MORE angry. Nevertheless, they were surprised Krypto wasn't dead.

yeah but according to IC Krypto is weaker than Superman. I see what you're saying Krypto is very dangerous but his showings vary thats why Pun can get 1 win.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
......ecpt we dont go by low showings......

it funny how you go by punisher best showings but his opponets worses.

yea it is retard to think he gets one win

Low showings indicate that something is unlikely to happen but can happen, thats why he gets 1 win. Its not that hard to understand.

Originally posted by jalek moye
the problem with the nuke is that he always uses his speed,

He always uses speed? Didnt look like that in IC...

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and sometimes it doesnt.

yeah but according to IC Krypto is weaker than Superman. I see what you're saying Krypto is very dangerous but his showings vary thats why Pun can get 1 win.

Low showings indicate that something is unlikely to happen but can happen, thats why he gets 1 win. Its not that hard to understand.

He always uses speed? Didnt look like that in IC...


why becuase he got kicked by a guy who is faster then him?