Punisher vs Krypto

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Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
and sometimes it doesnt.

yeah but according to IC Krypto is weaker than Superman. I see what you're saying Krypto is very dangerous but his showings vary thats why Pun can get 1 win.

Low showings indicate that something is unlikely to happen but can happen, thats why he gets 1 win. Its not that hard to understand.

He always uses speed? Didnt look like that in IC...

No actaully we go by best or norm. neither which that is. So no it does not happen. Just becuases you love Punisher does not change the rules of the forum

It not gunna happen. your using Punisher at his best and beyond and his opponet at they very worst. and you delusion your self to think your not.

cloud102 Senior Member

According to one source? Krypto has been a threat not only to Superman's villains, but Superman himself, throughout HISTORY. More than one instance back this up.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by jalek moye
why becuase he got kicked by a guy who is faster then him?

just because he was able to hurt SBp doesnt mean he was using superspeed. Superman characters dont always move at top-speed so we shouldnt always asume they use top-speed as default speed.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No actaully we go by best or norm. neither which that is. So no it does not happen. Just becuases you love Punisher does not change the rules of the forum

It not gunna happen. your using Punisher at his best and beyond and his opponet at they very worst. and you delusion your self to think your not.

No we dont, we look at all showings low and high. Low showings cant be used as proof for a majority win but they can be used that something is possible.

Originally posted by cloud102
According to one source? Krypto has been a threat not only to Superman's villains, but Superman himself, throughout HISTORY. More than one instance back this up.

Yeah but you only gave me one blatant example that Krypto was tougher than Superman.

Captain America is a threat to Scorpion doesnt mean hes more powerful than Spiderman.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
just because he was able to hurt SBp doesnt mean he was using superspeed. Superman characters dont always move at top-speed so we shouldnt always asume we use top-speed.

No we dont, we look at all showings low and high. Low showings cant be used as proof for a majority win but they can be used that something is possible.

Yeah but you only gave me one blatant example that Krypto was tougher than Superman.

Captain America is a threat to Scorpion doesnt mean hes more powerful than Spiderman.

no they cant were suposes to uses the norm. Not low showing go read the rules.

also so punsiher at is very best and beyond ever fight out of ten and krypto isent? becuases thats yoru arguement.

Phantom Zone Junior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no they cant were suposes to uses the norm. Not low showing go read the rules.

also so punsiher at is very best and beyond ever fight out of ten and krypto isent? becuases thats yoru arguement.

It doesnt state in the rules you can't use low showings, the rules state you can't use PIS.

PIS is not the same as a low showing. A low showings is something that could happen but is unlikley therefore you could use it as proof that a person could get 1 or two wins but not a split or a majority.

Battlehammer Senior Member

'It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability'

thats not that best of his ability. That be low showing. like I said not usable. Also that could easily be classified as pis as well.

cloud102 Senior Member

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
just because he was able to hurt SBp doesnt mean he was using superspeed. Superman characters dont always move at top-speed so we shouldnt always asume they use top-speed as default speed.

No we dont, we look at all showings low and high. Low showings cant be used as proof for a majority win but they can be used that something is possible.

Yeah but you only gave me one blatant example that Krypto was tougher than Superman.

Captain America is a threat to Scorpion doesnt mean hes more powerful than Spiderman.

White Martians, Mongul, Superboy, Atlas, Kryptonite Man, hell, even Pre-Crisis Krypto was fetching tiny stars for Superboy.

Phantom Zone Junior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
'It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability'

thats not that best of his ability. That be low showing. like I said not usable. Also that could easily be classified as pis as well.

Best ability is not the same thing as a showing. Showings define what best ability and we use both high and low to do that. Supermans showings indicate that he could get Koed by a nuke but its unlikely.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by cloud102
White Martians, Mongul, Superboy, Atlas, Kryptonite Man, hell, even Pre-Crisis Krypto was fetching tiny stars for Superboy.

Again being able to fight Superman villains doesnt neccesarily mean you're tougher it could mean you are as tough or slightly weaker.

Silent Hero Member

Krypto kills him

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

What does it matter if he's tougher than Supes or not either way he's gonna bite Frank's balls off and heat vision Franks head off. Frank has nothing he can possibly do to harm Krypto

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by Superherovandal
What does it matter if he's tougher than Supes or not either way he's gonna bite Frank's balls off and heat vision Franks head off. Frank has nothing he can possibly do to harm Krypto

Superman has been koed by nukes, Frank can get hold of nukes.

jalek moye Ti Lun

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Superman has been koed by nukes, Frank can get hold of nukes.

everybody knows that a nuke wont drop supes foreal. that happened what, one time.

cloud102 Senior Member
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Again being able to fight Superman villains doesnt neccesarily mean you're tougher it could mean you are as tough or slightly weaker.

Yes, but when Superman has stated he actually fears Krypto and you have PC Krypto taking stronger than nuke energy attacks, It's safe to say Krypto is a lot stronger than your average Frank Castle Nuke toy.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by jalek moye
everybody knows that a nuke wont drop supes foreal. that happened what, one time.

Its also happened in DKR as well. Im pretty sure Superman doesnt always have the same damage soak. I think Thors damage soak is comparable to Superman and on one ocassion Hulk had to save his arse from a nuke

Its not impossible for Superman to get Koed by a nuke it could be seen to be unlikely.

Originally posted by cloud102
Yes, but when Superman has stated he actually fears Krypto

That doesnt mean hes more powerful than Supes..just dangerous. Thanos had Doom under survillance that means Doom is considered a threat dont mean Doom can beat him.

Originally posted by cloud102

and you have PC Krypto taking stronger than nuke energy attacks, It's safe to say Krypto is a lot stronger than your average Frank Castle Nuke toy.

Were not talking about PC krypto but the current version.

jalek moye Ti Lun

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Its also happened in DKR as well. Im pretty sure Superman doesnt always have the same damage soak. I think Thors damage soak is comparable to Superman and on one ocassion Hulk had to save his arse from a nuke

dark knight returns isn't canon, if you meant somthing else then forgive my ignorance. But no superman on average isn't gonna get knocked out by a nuke unless hes already extremly damaged. and krypto isn't more powerful, they are equals. Krypto is just more dangerous because his lack of control

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by cloud102
Yes, but when Superman has stated he actually fears Krypto
Well that can be explained, Supes is a baby back b!tch.

Phantom Zone Junior Member
Originally posted by jalek moye
dark knight returns isn't canon,

Doesnt matter you can use non-canon sources if the charactres have the same ability. Hes been koed in a canon source so is not neccesarily bad writing.

Originally posted by jalek moye

But no superman on average isn't gonna get knocked out by a nuke unless hes already extremly damaged.

Thats why its a low showing and thats why pun gets 1 win. By the way that nuke was massive though.

Originally posted by jalek moye

and krypto isn't more powerful, they are equals. Krypto is just more dangerous because his lack of control

Well there you go still dont mean he cant get koed by a nuke.

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Doesnt matter you can use non-canon sources if the charactres have the same ability. Hes been koed in a canon source so is not neccesarily bad writing.

Thats why its a low showing and thats why pun gets 1 win. By the way that nuke was massive though.

Well there you go still dont mean he cant get koed by a nuke.

No you can't use it. Because for that story his power level was changed to fit the story. Like for instance the Kingdom Come Superman brushed off a nuke that kill almost all the other metas in the battle. and was immune to kryptonite...doesn't mean i'm gonna use his feats for regular superman even though I'm pretty sure current supes could brush off a nuke. So you can't use that nuke feat against supes

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Jesus Christ....

Zone, I don't wanna get dragged into another long argument to counter your fanatical delusions. This is a match between Punisher with futile prep and a BLOODLUSTED Krypto... meaning Krypto will be going for the kill from the start. How the hell is Frank going to stop a rabid dog charging right for him at several hundred or thousand miles per hour? He's not. He doesn't have the speed or reaction time to do a damned thing to Krypto, nor does he have the durability to survive even one attack under these conditions.

This isn't an ambush; it's a face-off. Castle dies.