Originally posted by Allankles
Not so much against peak MM who can increase his density and change his shape into anything like Sandman or clayface. I've seen MM shape shift and spread his body to restrain the JLA. He would wrap himself around Thor's arm, wrap his body, wrap his neck... he's a beast.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
This is classic Thor we are talking about. Not only that but Superman who is an equal to MM (maybe a little stronger) knocked out Thor in one punch. I don't see why MM can't do it about 2 punches.
Originally posted by darthgooberNot that I think MM will take the majority, but since when does Superskrull compare in the slightest to MM when it comes to self manipulation and strength? Not only would MM's grib be superior but, He can do things shape shifting that Skrull cannot. When MM pwned Ultraman, that was uber. He was literally filling up ULtraman's pores. Also, That thor looks suspicious. That isn't some amped up crazy version of thor you are trying to pass off is it?
And this is what MM would get for his trouble...
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1047/thor4651718nx7.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor46519sf8.jpgStop lying, it took more than one punch to put Thor down. I seem to remember him walking right through Supes's HV in fact...
Originally posted by fangirl101
Not that I think MM will take the majority, but since when does Superskrull compare in the slightest to MM when it comes to self manipulation and strength? Not only would MM's grib be superior but, He can do things shape shifting that Skrull cannot. When MM pwned Ultraman, that was uber. He was literally filling up ULtraman's pores. Also, That thor looks suspicious. That isn't some amped up crazy version of thor you are trying to pass off is it?
And no, it's not an amped Thor. He was a little out there at that point, but he wasn't in WM or anything yet.
Originally posted by darthgooberWell MM's strength and manipulation would make the difference, If he's gripping Thor Tighter and with better control, Thor wouldn't be using the hammer to zap.
When did I say that SS was comparable to MM as far as strength and body manipulation? Someone said that MM could wrap Thor up and restrain Thor so I showed him countering the tactic. Being stronger that SS isn't going to make Thor less likely to blast with his hammer if MM wraps up his arms.And no, it's not an amped Thor. He was a little out there at that point, but he wasn't in WM or anything yet.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Well MM's strength and manipulation would make the difference, If he's gripping Thor Tighter and with better control, Thor wouldn't be using the hammer to zap.
Originally posted by darthgoober
How is being gripped tighter going to matter? He doesn't have to swing the hammer to send out lighting and being gripped tighter by MM isn't likely to make him forget about his ability to do so...
Originally posted by fangirl101
Lulz for not getting it. MM has better control of his body. The lightning doesn't have to strike MM. He can make a hole around the blast or phase that part of his body so that it strikes Thor.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I've already shown you Thor tagging intangible characters so we know that doesn't matter and if you're claiming that MM is capable of dodging a lightning blast from point blank range from a character he's trying to keep wrapped up you're going to need to show proof to support the claim if it's to be taken seriously.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Not that I think MM will take the majority, but since when does Superskrull compare in the slightest to MM when it comes to self manipulation and strength? Not only would MM's grib be superior but, He can do things shape shifting that Skrull cannot. When MM pwned Ultraman, that was uber. He was literally filling up ULtraman's pores. Also, That thor looks suspicious. That isn't some amped up crazy version of thor you are trying to pass off is it?
He was filling the pores of an Ultraman in the prime DCU, where he was growing exponentially weaker since he no longer was near kryptonite X if i recall.
Good feat, but there were other factors at play.
MM just doesn't have the showings on paper to beat the top dog of another universe imo.
On paper, he's got it, but that rarely ever follows through to fruition.
One of my favs, but truth be told, his record says he gets hammered here.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
You dont know what you are talking about.
Do I need to remind people that Superman knock out Thor in one punch. MM basically is as strong as Superman. MM is also not weak against Magic. So we know he can take more hits then Superman.
That is wwayyyy over-simplifying the facts. Thor literally waded through Supe's hv, just if to prove he could take it, when he simply could've used Mjolnir to absorb it.
That, and the combined forces of Hercules, Wonderman, Iron Man et al literally KOed Supes on the next page, indicating that Thor is on Superman's level such that he was exhausted after knocking out Thor.
I also seem to recall that Thor got right back up after being punched by both Superman and MM in the beginning of that issue. 😎
Originally posted by UniOmniI'm guessing you didn't read where I pretty much stated the same thing.
He was filling the pores of an Ultraman in the prime DCU, where he was growing exponentially weaker since he no longer was near kryptonite X if i recall.Good feat, but there were other factors at play.
MM just doesn't have the showings on paper to beat the top dog of another universe imo.
On paper, he's got it, but that rarely ever follows through to fruition.
One of my favs, but truth be told, his record says he gets hammered here.
Originally posted by darthgooberI don't know why you even entertain the idea that JLA/Avengers is at all, even remotely applicable to vs threads. Crossover. Stupid crossover with numerous holes. Thor wades through Superman's heat vision with his chest? Did he forget that every time people attack him with energy blasts, he uses Mjolnir to deflect/absorb it? Superman catching Mjolnir with his bare hand? A Mjolnir shot has dented pure adamantium... and its fugging MAGIC. Kyle getting his energy stolen/duplicated by a mid-tier energy manipulator from a different universe?! The Infinity Gauntlet being reassembled? The Spear of Destiny not affecting its wielder? Ultimate Nullifier, Casket of Winters, Psycho Pirate's Medusa Mask lying around in random locations?
Stop lying, it took more than one punch to put Thor down. I seem to remember him walking right through Supes's HV in fact...
Fun adventure, but pure ludicrousness. Anytime I see people stating it's canon, I can't help but 🙄
Originally posted by OneDumbG0You don't know what you are talking about.. Monica a mid tier energy manipulator? LOL. What the ****. LMAO. She's easily herald level. And Thor's hammer being magic has nothing to do with it's punching force. Unless it was charged with magic at the time. Superman is also more durable than adamantium. A black hole would shred adamantium.
I don't know why you even entertain the idea that JLA/Avengers is at all, even remotely applicable to vs threads. Crossover. Stupid crossover with numerous holes. Thor wades through Superman's heat vision with his chest? Did he forget that every time people attack him with energy blasts, he uses Mjolnir to deflect/absorb it? Superman catching Mjolnir with his bare hand? A Mjolnir shot has dented pure adamantium... and its fugging MAGIC. Kyle getting his energy stolen/duplicated by a mid-tier energy manipulator from a different universe?! The Infinity Gauntlet being reassembled? The Spear of Destiny not affecting its wielder? Ultimate Nullifier, Casket of Winters, Psycho Pirate's Medusa Mask lying around in random locations?Fun adventure, but pure ludicrousness.
Originally posted by fangirl101A black hole didn't shred Thanos, but adamantium was able to cut him.
You don't know what you are talking about.. Monica a mid tier energy manipulator? LOL. What the ****. LMAO. She's easily herald level. And Thor's hammer being magic has nothing to do with it's punching force. Unless it was charged with magic at the time. Superman is also more durable than adamantium. A black hole would shred adamantium.
