Originally posted by Mindset
A black hole didn't shred Thanos, but adamantium was able to cut him.
Originally posted by RaoulGo back to the kids table, the adults are talking.
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Originally posted by fangirl101Generalizing Monica as a herald level energy manipulator is nothign short of ridiculous. Point me to a feat outside of JLA/Avengers where she is able to strip a foe of their entire energy-based powers, especially a foe ont eh level of a Green Lantern. And Thor's hammer being magic will only hurt Superman if it's charged with magic at the time? What the heck do you think all that blue blazing aura around Mjolnir was? Not to mention that a simple enchanted knife doesn't need to be charged with magic to cut Superman's skin. Superman, getting his form pulled and tugged by two event horizons is no evidence that he is either more or less durable than adamantium, since we haven't seen whata black hole would do to adamantium.
You don't know what you are talking about.. Monica a mid tier energy manipulator? LOL. What the ****. LMAO. She's easily herald level. And Thor's hammer being magic has nothing to do with it's punching force. Unless it was charged with magic at the time. Superman is also more durable than adamantium. A black hole would shred adamantium.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Generalizing Monica as a herald level energy manipulator is nothign short of ridiculous. Point me to a feat outside of JLA/Avengers where she is able to strip a foe of their entire energy-based powers, especially a foe ont eh level of a Green Lantern. And Thor's hammer being magic will only hurt Superman if it's charged with magic at the time? What the heck do you think all that blue blazing aura around Mjolnir was? Not to mention that a simple enchanted knife doesn't need to be charged with magic to cut Superman's skin. Superman, getting his form pulled and tugged by two event horizons is no evidence that he is either more or less durable than adamantium, since we haven't seen whata black hole would do to adamantium.
Originally posted by fangirl101
And Superman is more durable than Adamantium. It's been bent before. IT's been pulled apart by magneto. What do you think all that magnetic energy in a black hole would do to it?
Faulty analogy. Magnetos application of magnetic powers have a scope far beyond its limited application in a blackhole. Its not comparable at all.
Originally posted by fangirl101I have that arc. And she manages to blow up a robot and get trapped inside an Infinite Walker and had to be freed by the rest of the Avengers. 🙄
Monica is most certainly a herald lvler. Read The Avengers arc where they meet the infinites. And you'll see for yourself. Or when the xmen theorized that she could defeat them all by herself and they had no way to cope with her. Please dont' make me get all Monica fangirlish on you. And Superman is more durable than Adamantium. It's been bent before. IT's been pulled apart by magneto. What do you think all that magnetic energy in a black hole would do to it?
Being made of pure energy, yes, she could defeat the X-Men. So what? Hulk could beat allt he X-Men. And don't dodge my question or deflect my pointed criticisms. Show me a feat where Monica was able to steal a foe's energy completely, especially a foe like a Green Lantern?
Magneto pulls adamantium apart not through telekinetic or physical forces but through focused molecular control. And you still haven't addressed the fact that Superman was getting affected by a black hole nonetheless and now you're also sidetracking the original conversation whereupon Mjolnir is a magic instrument. And whether or not it was magically charged at the moment (which is plainly obvious), a simple enchanted knife can cut Superman's skin.
And this all leads back to the original holes in JLA/Avengers, inlcuding why the Infinity Gems were reassembled, why the Spear of Destiny didn't affect it's holder, why the Ultimate Nullifier and Psycho Man's Medusa Mask qwere just lying around, etc. etc. We generally don't take crossovers as evidence. Especially crossovers that don't make sense. And now you want me to take a single fight where Thor forgets he ALWAYS uses Mjolnir to deflect/absorb energy attacks and Superman can catch a magically blazing hammer with his bare hand? A magic-charged punch by Captain Marvel has made him blink stars away. Please. It's not canon for simple obvious reasons.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I have that arc. And she manages to blow up a robot and get trapped inside an Infinite Walker and had to be freed by the rest of the Avengers. 🙄Being made of pure energy, yes, she could defeat the X-Men. So what? Hulk could beat allt he X-Men. And don't dodge my question or deflect my pointed criticisms. Show me a feat where Monica was able to steal a foe's energy completely, especially a foe like a Green Lantern?
Magneto pulls adamantium apart not through telekinetic or physical forces but through focused molecular control. And you still haven't addressed the fact that Superman was getting affected by a black hole nonetheless and now you're also sidetracking the original conversation whereupon Mjolnir is a magic instrument. And whether or not it was magically charged at the moment (which is plainly obvious), a simple enchanted knife can cut Superman's skin.
And this all leads back to the original holes in JLA/Avengers, inlcuding why the Infinity Gems were reassembled, why the Spear of Destiny didn't affect it's holder, why the Ultimate Nullifier and Psycho Man's Medusa Mask qwere just lying around, etc. etc. We generally don't take crossovers as evidence. Especially crossovers that don't make sense. And now you want me to take a single fight where Thor forgets he ALWAYS uses Mjolnir to deflect/absorb energy attacks and Superman can catch a magically blazing hammer with his bare hand? A magic-charged punch by Captain Marvel has made him blink stars away. Please. It's not canon for simple obvious reasons.
A black Hole I would surmise would affect things with molecular disruption as well. So don't make it seem as if The Black Hole wasn't affecting Superman with molecular lvl disruption. He's tuffer than Adamantium period.
As for the knife, It was a sharp object vs. a blunt object of the hammer. We all know the knife was also made to carve electrons off and atom. Which may be why he was cut. He is after all, made of atoms. As for why the artifacts where lying around, I thought it was obvious that Krona and the games master as well as Metron had something to do with the items lying around.
As for Monica, the respect thread is being worked on. I'll see you when it's done.
Originally posted by fangirl101No it's not canon per the rules. Deal with it. I don't care if a select number of self-serving posters state that's it's canon. It's clearly full of holes that render the story itself impossible and the specific fight you refer to itself had holes and PIS of unmitigated ridiculousness. That's why we don't use crossovers as much as you'd like to cling to it. In the end, why you continue to use JLA/Avengers is beyond me, since that story in and of itself asserted that all the prior crossovers the companies had with each other actually happened because of the distortions Krona caused.
Lulz. It's canon. Deal with it. There are plenty of singular stories by both companies that have holes. Get OVER IT.A black Hole I would surmise would affect things with molecular disruption as well. So don't make it seem as if The Black Hole wasn't affecting Superman with molecular lvl disruption. He's tuffer than Adamantium period.
As for the knife, It was a sharp object vs. a blunt object of the hammer. We all know the knife was also made to carve electrons off and atom. Which may be why he was cut. He is after all, made of atoms. As for why the artifacts where lying around, I thought it was obvious that Krona and the games master as well as Metron had something to do with the items lying around.As for Monica, the respect thread is being worked on. I'll see you when it's done.
I'm not just talking about Halcyon's knife. I'm talking about all the other magical knives that have cut him. Neither Metron nor Grandmaster have the power over some of the artifacts that were featured in JLA/Avengers. Especially objects like the Spear of Destiny or the Infinity Gems or the Ultimate Nullifier. Krona had nothing to do with those objects being scattered. And ask yourself this, if grandmaster's ultimate plan was to gather the objects together to combat Krona, why the hell would he go to the trouble of scattering them? Does that even make sense to you?
You go deal with the respect thread. I just asked for an example of Monica completely stealing the energy from a foe on the level of a Green Lantern. You don't have one? Fine.
Originally posted by fangirl101
No, show Thor striking someone on MM's lvl while being squeezed with Near Superman strength.
