Thor w/ Speedforce vs Superman w/ Power Cosmic
The respective champions of Marvel and DC both get power-ups that address their biggest weaknesses. Thor gets all the powers of Flash (Wally) and Superman gets all the powers of Silver Surfer. Both also have the same mastery over their new powers as the original sources.
Who wins?
Speedforce is just a plot device to explain how a regular human doesn't get pulped at super speeds imop. It doesn't "upgrade" Thor much. He can already attack/swing his hammer at superhuman speed. Sure he'd add a DC speed blitz with the flash powers but is that really necessary when you can throw a nearly indistructable magic infused hammer at superhuman speed and toss a godblast too? When he swings his hammer and propels himself he's not exactly slow anyways. Flash powers would just allow him to redirect himself better at superspeeds.
I just noticed that classic Thor wasn't mentioned by the thread starter so if this is current Thor with Odin Force then Flash powers are kind of moot. Superman with SS Cosmic Power is practically just another SS. Current Thor wins this 10/10 without any "boost" needed. Ask youself...does SS beat current Thor. Nope.
Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
Speedforce is just a plot device to explain how a regular human doesn't get pulped at super speeds imop. It doesn't "upgrade" Thor much. He can already attack/swing his hammer at superhuman speed. Sure he'd add a DC speed blitz with the flash powers but is that really necessary when you can throw a nearly indistructable magic infused hammer at superhuman speed and toss a godblast too? When he swings his hammer and propels himself he's not exactly slow anyways. Flash powers would just allow him to redirect himself better at superspeeds.I just noticed that classic Thor wasn't mentioned by the thread starter so if this is current Thor with Odin Force then Flash powers are kind of moot. Superman with SS Cosmic Power is practically just another SS. Current Thor wins this 10/10 without any "boost" needed. Ask youself...does SS beat current Thor. Nope.
Supes still has his Kryptonian attributes. Supes already had a strength advantage over Silver Surfer. His hand to hand fighting skills are better than Surfer's. He still has heat vision and everything else. PC would put Supes well over the Silver Surfer.
Supes with power cosmic: isn't that "the Kryptonian," when Galactus infused Superman with PC in the crossover, whom Reed referred to as the second most powerful being in existence (after the Big G, 'natch)? The only difference here is that this PC Supes would be free-willed.
Just sayin'.
Anyway: PC Supes ftw. He benefits way more from PC than Thor does from speedforce.
Originally posted by Kasper GutmanHaven't read any Flash?
Speedforce is just a plot device to explain how a regular human doesn't get pulped at super speeds imop. It doesn't "upgrade" Thor much. He can already attack/swing his hammer at superhuman speed. Sure he'd add a DC speed blitz with the flash powers but is that really necessary when you can throw a nearly indistructable magic infused hammer at superhuman speed and toss a godblast too? When he swings his hammer and propels himself he's not exactly slow anyways. Flash powers would just allow him to redirect himself better at superspeeds.I just noticed that classic Thor wasn't mentioned by the thread starter so if this is current Thor with Odin Force then Flash powers are kind of moot. Superman with SS Cosmic Power is practically just another SS. Current Thor wins this 10/10 without any "boost" needed. Ask youself...does SS beat current Thor. Nope.
Originally posted by Kasper GutmanI should've specified that Thor does not get OdinforceI just noticed that classic Thor wasn't mentioned by the thread starter so if this is current Thor with Odin Force then Flash powers are kind of moot. Superman with SS Cosmic Power is practically just another SS. Current Thor wins this 10/10 without any "boost" needed. Ask youself...does SS beat current Thor. Nope.
has he done anything impressive with the odinforce anyways?