Originally posted by big juggy manthen this contradicts other bio. jugs bio states he cant be hurt at all but for example fury bio states it can adapt to anything. so which is it? if fury can adapt to hurt jugs, then jugs is not invulnerable
Surely everybody who said Superman could hurt the Juggernaut are wrong period. Juggs bio states he cant be hurt physically even if the person is more powerful than him. Superman could punch Juggernaut for 1,000 years and he could never hurt the Juggernaut period.
btw this topics about classic jugs right?
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
then this contradicts other bio. jugs bio states he cant be hurt at all but for example fury bio states it can adapt to anything. so which is it? if fury can adapt to hurt jugs, then jugs is not invulnerablebtw this topics about classic jugs right?
First of all Juggs is powered by a single skyfather. Juggs invulnerability is related to magic energy. Any force regardless of whether it's a punch or a bolt of pure energy, stronger than the this magical enchantment, will hurt Juggs.
And since his super durability is solely reliant on this enchantment, such an attack could conceivably kill him instantly.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerWords like Invulnerable , Indestructible , Omnipotent , Unlimited Power , Infinite etc are all used in comic to loosely
then this contradicts other bio. jugs bio states he cant be hurt at all but for example fury bio states it can adapt to anything. so which is it? if fury can adapt to hurt jugs, then jugs is not invulnerablebtw this topics about classic jugs right?
but people who have been associated with those terms do not tend to shows those characteristic.
They have a strong correlation if said character is said invulnerable they mostly are my normal "means"
what is normal can be subjective but one thing is clear that no matter what is attributed with character that is impossible aren't always true.
Juggernaut is a percent example of Invulnerable which is true when we have herald types but this won't be the case at upper echelon on power.
Originally posted by kgkgnot entirely, yes those words are absolutes but they can also be used to describe an amount of something that is functionally infinite.
Words like Invulnerable , Indestructible , Omnipotent , Unlimited Power , Infinite etc are all used in comic to looselybut people who have been associated with those terms do not tend to shows those characteristic.
They have a strong correlation if said character is said invulnerable they mostly are my normal "means"
what is normal can be subjective but one thing is clear that no matter what is attributed with character that is impossible aren't always true.
Juggernaut is a percent example of Invulnerable which is true when we have herald types but this won't be the case at upper echelon on power.
for example, the upper limit of weight (classic)juggernaut can lift is undetermined since he can lift pretty much anything on earth, like a mountain or something. not many things weigh more than mountains on earth so testing his upper limit is a hopeless experiment from the get go. = "functionally infinite"
but in the case of kc superman, he was able to get his strength tested by beings who could construct machinery capable of exerting pressures similar to the weight of multiple mountains, an actual mountain range is impossible to lift over one's head due to physics so kc superman's strength is no longer truly infinite, it's just extremely high.
same goes for energy manipulation, durability, old age, etc.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
not entirely, yes those words are absolutes but they can also be used to describe an amount of something that is functionally infinite.for example, the upper limit of weight (classic)juggernaut can lift is undetermined since he can lift pretty much anything on earth, like a mountain or something. not many things weigh more than mountains on earth so testing his upper limit is a hopeless experiment from the get go. = "functionally infinite"
but in the case of kc superman, he was able to get his strength tested by beings who could construct machinery capable of exerting pressures similar to the weight of multiple mountains, an actual mountain range is impossible to lift over one's head due to physics so kc superman's strength is no longer truly infinite, it's just extremely high.
same goes for energy manipulation, durability, old age, etc.
"functionally infinite" - Just because you can't test the upper limit on earth does not mean it is true infinite.
To claim something like this one has to prove it.
If one is going to claim somone/or something is invincible or Infinite they have to back it up with extreme feats that matches close to those levels.
and for this thread, it's possible for current superman to hurt juggernaut, but it may weakening superman.
imo it might make superman tire to the point where he passes out of exhaustion since he has no means of stopping juggernaut from receiving incoming magic from cytorrak.
like a poster said earlier, to hurt juggernaut, you have to hit him with more power than he is receiving from cytorrak and what is stored within him. and those goes for all of his powers.
war hulk was able to stall him since his power output was sufficient enough to do so, so that's evidence right there. war hulk's power matched juggernaut's to the point of stalemating the shoving match, to actually push him back he would require more power.
juggernaut was also slowed down by plasma discharge cannons, he could still move forward but they did release enough power to slow him.