Originally posted by Mr Master
Fury for the win!Not that I can prove that, but meh, I see it's easy to write.
You are right you cannot prove it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Why would Fury use a technique on Solar,
built to defeat someone else?I'm sure Fury would use whatever means necessary to crack Solar, not MJJ,
since MJJ is not the opponent here.
Because that is really his only option, like it was his only option against MJJ, and consideret that MJJ isn't the opponent here I find it rather funny the amount of references he got.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, Fury can tire ...
when battling across Universes possibly the most powerful reality warper ever in Marvel.I mean, JJ re-wrote Time/Space & everything in-between in 616,
and Fury(for the most part) resisted that, survived that, and got the win.
Ore when traveling through the universes, granted a weakened version but it still showed that Fury can tire when put up against a being that it cannot immidiately put down, such a enemy is Solar.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Good luck with that one friend.
Based on that Solar when inexperienced with his power caused Universes to vanish because he got angry I would say he had a good shot.
Originally posted by Mr Master
?MJJ warped the very concept of Time,
and it wasn't enough to take down Fury,
what the heck is simple time stoppage going to do?Also,
Scatterbrain's omniversal time-based attack proved unworthy of hurting Fury.
MJJ warped reality and sure a aspect of reality is time. but did MJJ ever try and freeze Fury in time? No he didn't, and how exactly does Scatterbrains Omniversal Mindexpanding attack qualify as a Time based attack at a Level near Solar simply stopping time? It doesn't.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And what's this supposed to do?Solar is energy, or can manipulate energy, ... and?
Energy?
MJJ manipulated Concepts, abstractual reality that isn't even tangible,
and yet again, Fury resisted/survived and got the win.Also, being made of/controlling energy,
didn't stop Fury from killing energy-based/controlling individuals on 238.
Making a BFR removal utter pointless. Yes Solar is energy and can manipulate energy and since everything in some sharp ore form is energy Solar could most likely transform Fury into energy and disperse him unless Fury can adapt to not being Energy, Solar have remade the Valient fictionel Multiverse after he had destroyed it, I doubt the energy based Beings that Fury battled on 238 have a feat that makes them even come near the socks of Solar at his most powerful.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestIt's quite clear Mr. M, that you have absolutely no idea who Solar is.
Originally posted by UtrigitaYou are right you cannot prove it.
Originally posted by UtrigitaBecause that is really his only option, like it was his only option against MJJ, and consideret that MJJ isn't the opponent here I find it rather funny the amount of references he got.
Also, concerning the references,
how else are we supposed to know how badass Fury is,
\if we don't bring up what he's done.
Originally posted by UtrigitaOre when traveling through the universes, granted a weakened version but it still showed that Fury can tire when put up against a being that it cannot immidiately put down, such a enemy is Solar.
Originally posted by UtrigitaBased on that Solar when inexperienced with his power caused Universes to vanish because he got angry I would say he had a good shot.
Originally posted by UtrigitaMJJ warped reality and sure a aspect of reality is time. but did MJJ ever try and freeze Fury in time? No he didn't, and how exactly does Scatterbrains Omniversal Mindexpanding attack qualify as a Time based attack at a Level near Solar simply stopping time? It doesn't.
The Scatterbrain attack is Time-based,
let me know if you need the scanned proof.
Originally posted by UtrigitaMaking a BFR removal utter pointless. Yes Solar is energy and can manipulate energy and since everything in some sharp ore form is energy Solar could most likely transform Fury into energy and disperse him unless Fury can adapt to not being Energy, Solar have remade the Valient fictionel Multiverse after he had destroyed it, I doubt the energy based Beings that Fury battled on 238 have a feat that makes them even come near the socks of Solar at his most powerful.
The Valiant Multiverse?
Could've sworn it was the Valiant Universe,
still, it makes little difference,
Merlyn had absolute omniversal power,
and 238 Jaspers (creator of the Fury) was more powerful than Merlyn,
and 616 Jaspers was far more powerful than 238,
and Fury still managed to survive long enough to find a way to beat MJJ 616.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Of course, just like you, nor anyone else can prove otherwise.
Correct.
Originally posted by Mr Master
That's your opinion that Fury is stuck on one option,
yea, Fury's only option against MJJ was un-space,
but, this is Solar, not MJJ.Also, concerning the references,
how else are we supposed to know how badass Fury is,
\if we don't bring up what he's done.
The difference between Solar and MJJ is really very little, Solar Manipulate energy, MJJ manipulates Reality which is energy. So the only possible way for Fury to put down Solar would be to try and take that source away from him. However where MJJ runs into a finite supply of reality in the 238 universe, Solar would run into a empty Universe with the energy of nullification left and even if it wasn't there Fury would still be energy like Solar himself would be energy.
Originally posted by Mr Master
This "weaker" version of the Fury,
is not at all the incredible full powered Fury here.
I know, but both versions showed that they can be damaged if they are damaged for a substained amount of time.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Yea, Fury was at ground zero in the implosion of a Universe (space/time)
as we both know, Fury remained unscathed by it.
So, erasing Universes will do nothing.
Correct it wouldn't but Opening Black holes all around Fury, The making suns around him, drastically try and alter his mass, etc would wear him down, MJJ battered him down with punches and physical attacks, Solar can do the same, and Fury will really have no way of disposing of Solar.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Everything within Reality gets warped when MJJ does his magic,
Time, is one of those things,
so I don't see how you're now trying to take time out of MJJ equation.The Scatterbrain attack is Time-based,
let me know if you need the scanned proof.
I didn't, I just noticed that MJJ not at any point freezed time ore freezed Time around a object, it's like Ion vs Solar, Ion talks about altering/manipulating time, Solar does it.
Please show me.
Originally posted by Mr Master
If MJJ couldn't stop Fury with his warp,
there's no way this Solar can ever dream to.The Valiant Multiverse?
Could've sworn it was the Valiant Universe,
still, it makes little difference,
Merlyn had absolute omniversal power,
and 238 Jaspers (creator of the Fury) was more powerful than Merlyn,
and 616 Jaspers was far more powerful than 238,
and Fury still managed to survive long enough to find a way to beat MJJ 616.
MJJ was very very very close to stopping Solar within his warp and we both know that.
Yes Valient Multiverse, the reference to Universes.
http://s553.photobucket.com/albums/jj364/galanphotobook/?action=view¤t=solardestroy1.jpg
I really couldn't care less about the Equation 616 Jaspers > 238 Jaspers > Merlyn. It isn't Merlyn Fury is pitted against, for instance We both know that 616 Jaspers > Eternity does that Mean that Fury can defeat Eternity because he could defeat MJJ? Not in my opinion since Fury has no way to attack ore cause harm to Eternity, like Fury's doesn't really have a way to dispose of Solar. The argument that "Fury will find a way" is fine, but we both know that if reality 238 had not been destroyed, prior to the battle between 616 MJJ and Fury, then Fury would have had no place to take MJJ.
Solar conversts the Fury into energy.
Solar wins.
Also, just to clarify, Solar just doesn't stop time. He can also move outside of it. Basically he can go so fast that time stops (literally) around him by converting his body into tachyons (energy that moves backwards in time). Basically, unless the Fury has managed to speed blitz people in a way that would make the Flash into a turtle by comparison, I don't see any way he can even touch Solar in a real fight.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Unless Fury can adapt into not being energy (good luck with that) Solar own body would still function as energy for him to manipulate on top of that, even a nullified universe should in theory have energy left for Solar to manipulate the energy left from the nullification which is just another type of energy.
Fury has adapted beyond reality manipulation, why woulnd't he adapt to energy manipulation? He already adapted to time itself awesr
Originally posted by Bentley
Fury has adapted beyond reality manipulation, why woulnd't he adapt to energy manipulation? He already adapted to time itself awesr
Are you suggesting that Fury can adapt to not being energy? 😕 Solar is not like any of the energy manipulators that Fury has previously encountered. And I don't get the meaning with that he has already adapted to time itself, do you mean that Fury would be unfazed by Time stopping around him? If so then what are you basing that conclusion on?
Originally posted by Utrigita
Are you suggesting that Fury can adapt to not being energy? 😕 Solar is not like any of the energy manipulators that Fury has previously encountered. And I don't get the meaning with that he has already adapted to time itself, do you mean that Fury would be unfazed by Time stopping around him? If so then what are you basing that conclusion on?
He has been attacked by time manipulation, that means that time around the Fury doesn't act like the rest of the time, which would include time stopping around him.
Fury adapted to a guy who could make him become an abstract concept, resisting a guy who can manipulate energy is not that harder than to resist someone who can manipulate everything that the Fury is or isn't.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Are you suggesting that Fury can adapt to not being energy? 😕 Solar is not like any of the energy manipulators that Fury has previously encountered. And I don't get the meaning with that he has already adapted to time itself, do you mean that Fury would be unfazed by Time stopping around him? If so then what are you basing that conclusion on?
If Fury can resist reality alteration, why wouldn't he be able to resist energy manipulation?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Soooo, basically, this thread is about the Fury being automatically immune to anything in the multiverse and nyah nyah nyah to anyone who tries to come up with any means whatsoever to defeat him...
Its the character, he doesn't lose or becomes any weaker because people thinks he can't do what he HAS done. awesr
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Soooo, basically, this thread is about the Fury being automatically immune to anything in the multiverse and nyah nyah nyah to anyone who tries to come up with any means whatsoever to defeat him...
Pretty much. Funny since Superman has a similar feat to his credit...
Anyway, Solar ftw.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Solar is simply more powerful than MJJ.
Heh.
Originally posted by Avlon
Pretty much. Funny since Superman has a similar feat to his credit...Anyway, Solar ftw.
The Fury survived the nullification of an entire universe and Solar has fallen against things that he faces for the first time. Fury only needs to evolve once and use something that Solar has never faced, that he will be weak against -its Fury's power set, don't hate the fact that the character is like that, if you don't like it don't post in his threads- and he will win way before Solar makes him run out of gas.
Originally posted by Bentley
The Fury survived the nullification of an entire universe and Solar has fallen against things that he faces for the first time. Fury only needs to evolve once and use something that Solar has never faced, that he will be weak against -its Fury's power set, don't hate the fact that the character is like that, if you don't like it don't post in his threads- and he will win way before Solar makes him run out of gas.
Feeling a bit emo there buddy?
What stops Solar from creating a bunch of anti furies to battle the original or simply freezing time?
Adapting is something that you need time for.
